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tragusa3
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Nov 09, 2013

Should I buy a new TV or not?

I'll start by saying, I KNOW that a new TV will be an improvement. Maybe even a really large improvement. However, I always choose to be frugal over spending money needlessly.

The feedback I'm looking for here is mostly, do I have a need? or, am I bit by the bug?

My current TV (in signature) is about as weak a half ton as you can find. 280hp/280tq. My trailer (has been weighed) is at 4000lbs loaded.

We live right at the Appalachian Mtns, so we're always in the hills, and pull a 6-7% grade for a few miles at the beginning of most trips. Our current truck does the job around here. Yes, it is in second gear at 40mph going up the steeper grades, but it does it. And, it doesn't bother me to be geared down for a few miles at a time.

For local towing, I don't mind the current setup. However, we have a 6 week trip to the four corners area of the southwest this coming summer. We've never been out west, and don't know what sorts of grades we might get into. I know that we'll climb much higher elevations.

Here's a map of the loop we're taking. In a nutshell, Grand Canyon, Bryce, Zion, Mesa Verde, Durango, Colorado Springs.



For those of you that have traveled this area as well as Appalachia, am I making a mistake to try this trip with my current truck? I certainly don't want to get out there with my wife and kids and blow up the truck! It has low mileage (95,000) and has never had mechanical issue. I don't mind the stress of being at my towing limits, but will the truck? 7% for 10 minutes is one thing, but will I be seeing 7% for hours at a time?

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  • You will be fine with a newer half ton. The 2014 Chev/GMC 5.3L has more horsepower and torque than the 6.0L in my 2005 GMC. Plenty of truck for what you are doing. I would try to avoid the 3.42 gear in a new truck. 3.73 would be better suited for towing with little, if any, compromise in fuel economy.
  • I've been from coast to coast with my campers. First was gas a 5.7 Tahoe, 6.0 GMC Sierra 2500 and now a 6.6 GMC diesel. Never been happier! I too hate to spend the mighty$$$ but the joy I now have is priceless! I can go anywhere with my current truck. There are plenty of good gas comb's as well. I've done both and like my diesel.Good luck! Anything you buy will be MUCH better than what you have now. Just my two cents.
  • tragusa3 wrote:


    We live right at the Appalachian Mtns, so we're always in the hills, and pull a 6-7% grade for a few miles at the beginning of most trips. Our current truck does the job around here. Yes, it is in second gear at 40mph going up the steeper grades, but it does it. And, it doesn't bother me to be geared down for a few miles at a time.



    You will not find many climbs more than 6% to 7% grades anywhere, so if you are comfortable with what you have experienced, then you will be fine.
  • campigloo, I'm certainly open to avoiding the steepest roads. I just don't know if there are 2-3 to avoid, or if the whole area is that way. Thanks for the tip on 550.

    Geaux Tigers! We've got a tough one tonight!
  • Thanks for the input zogg. This is the first of several trips, unfortunately. My kids are right at that age that we plan to do trips like this every summer for the next 6-8 years.

    My experience with the 4.8 is different than most folks opinions. Maybe my tolerance is higher.
  • Great trip! You are going to see some amazing scenery. I think you will be ok with what you have. Just take your time and don't try to get too much out of your truck. You might want to avoid Hwy550 between Durango and Montrose. That is a series of REALLY tough climbs and switchbacks for many miles. There is a bypass highway that is much easier and doesn't add much mileage. A copy of Mountain Directory West could be valuable too. You're not going to set any speed records, but it is vacation, right? Hwy 550 is the only road I know of that would be hours at a time. Watch those downhills, and do you have an auxillary tranny cooler? If not, GET ONE. P.S. The train ride from Durango to Silverton is very much worth the price of admission. Beware riding in the open car, you will return with ash all over you. Have a great trip!
  • I am surprised the 4.8 does as well as you say....

    From your home to Colorado springs will not be an issue and from Flagstaff to home it will be down hill, sort of.

    Once you get into the Rockies, it will be a pretty tough go with your truck. It will do it, but the world of 4000 rpms will be yours.

    On the other hand, if you are relatively happy with your rig at home, I am not sure it would be worth buying a new TV for one trip. But, if this is to be the first of many such trips, I would dump that 4.8 in a heartbeat.

    I bought a new Ram with the 5.7 hemi and it tows my 8000 pound TT with power to spare, even in the Ozark mountains....it would no doubt struggle in the Rockies. I get 19-21 mpg empty and 9.5-10.2 mpg towing. I bought a 3/4 ton, but I think a heavy half ton will work well for you. Some will say you will need a diesel, but that would be overkill, unless you are thinking about a bigger TT.

    A 3/4 ton gives you bigger brakes, more stability, etc., but a properly equipped 1/2 ton with better gears, like 3.73 or 4.10 would do the job. I would look for a 5.7 hemi, 6.0 GM or a 5.4 ford

    Good luck!!!