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wsc7050
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Dec 10, 2016

solar charger questions

Hello,
I have a couple questions. I have 2 6v 225 interstate batteries with a 100 watt zamp solar panel mounted on the roof of my 2015 Nash 25c. I also have a eco 100 watt portable unit with its own charger that I haven't even hooked up yet. The fixed panel charger is a zamp zs 7a. I just hooked up a victron 700 monitor with the Bluetooth dongle. (super cool) I got the shunt wired and everything installed yesterday afternoon. All seemed great. Today I got to the trailer to check on everything and the batteries were reading 15.8 volts and the panel was putting out 4 amps of charge! The charged green light on controller was not on. I thought this was way high so I pulled the panel fuse and called for some advice. The victron dealer said that perhaps I came to the system during a sulfate program in my charger and that this usually happens once a month. He said pulling the fuse would reset the program and that I should quickly see the green charged light and amps drop when I restarted the system. I did, but not until the batteries were at 14.5-.7 and then there was still 1-1.5 amps of charge. It of course was starting to get cloudy and late in the day so I had a hard time deciding if the charger was functioning properly, or the panel just couldn't put out more amps. So my questions are: How does the charger get its current information to know when to shut down charging amps from panel?
Is 14.5 too high for the charger to still allow 1.5 charging amps from panel?
Do the chargers fail often, and what is best way to make sure this one has not failed? And finally, is a programmable charger a good idea?
Also, Am I missing something?
Thank you in advance for any information. I'm really trying to understand this system. In also trying to keep it as simple and durable as possible. Camp on!
  • Thanks everyone! Just don't want to fry my new batteries. I will most likely use it as is for awhile keeping a good eye on water levels. If I'm having to add excessive amounts I will invest in a better charger. Matt
  • With the information given so far don't see a problem per the battery manufacturers web site.
  • westend wrote:
    .....until the batteries were at 14.5-.7 and then there was still 1-1.5 amps of charge
    Can you explain this more fully? You are stating a voltage and a level of current, two dissimilar things.

    The charge controller may be charging the batteries at 14.7 Volts and you may have 1.5 Amp Hours of capacity to fill but that isn't clear from your post.

    After the batteries have rested with no charge and no load what is the voltage? The Victron should display that in the early AM before sun hits the panels.

    Theoretically, the solar charge controller will charge until the batteries will not accept any current from the solar system. There is always a small amount of self-discharge (along with any parasitic loads) so that state of charge is fleeting.

    I have a programmable, temp compensated controller and it is usually back at float level very early in the morning when in storage. It will cycle through the bulk and absorption charge levels quickly before going into float.

    More focused advice can be given if you share which controller you have.


    He said he has a zamp zs 7a, its only a 2 stage whchis likely the problem.
  • 14.5 volts is common and normal charging voltage. Trojan and other call for 14.8 volts.

    Usually a controller will hold that voltage based on a timer of 60 to 180 minutes regardless of amps then drop to float around 13.2 to 13.6 volts. Generally when you reach 1/2 of 1% capacity in amps you are full. 225 amp/hours battery would be 1 to 1.5 amps so you are full.

    Only way to really control the process is to get a programmable controller.

    If you can turn off the equalize function I recommend it. You need to read your manual a bit closer. Maybe switch the setting on battery type.
  • .....until the batteries were at 14.5-.7 and then there was still 1-1.5 amps of charge
    Can you explain this more fully? You are stating a voltage and a level of current, two dissimilar things.

    The charge controller may be charging the batteries at 14.7 Volts and you may have 1.5 Amp Hours of capacity to fill but that isn't clear from your post.

    After the batteries have rested with no charge and no load what is the voltage? The Victron should display that in the early AM before sun hits the panels.

    Theoretically, the solar charge controller will charge until the batteries will not accept any current from the solar system. There is always a small amount of self-discharge (along with any parasitic loads) so that state of charge is fleeting.

    I have a programmable, temp compensated controller and it is usually back at float level very early in the morning when in storage. It will cycle through the bulk and absorption charge levels quickly before going into float.

    More focused advice can be given if you share which controller you have.