ST trailer tire 75 mph rated

Gdetrailer wrote:

Huntindog wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:
The "LT" crowd should be along shortly to get the thread closed..

Paint me with the "LT crowd" brush.
It is kind of funny though, as for such a strong LT believer, I have owned many more sets of ST tires than LT tires. I once was a strong believer in what I now recognize was marketing hype, designed to get my money. Failure after failure, I accepted that there was something that I was doing wrong to my ST tires to cause them to fail at such a horrendous rate. So I upgraded sizes and weight ratings numerous times, until I just ran out of options to go higher. In 2006 my last ST tire failed. On I-17 going north from phoenix in July. It was about 115 degrees out... So hot that I had to remove the floor mats from the TV to lay on the asphalt to keep from getting burned.
I will never forget how unerving it was with the semis blowing past rocking the TT as I worked on it. My wife walked behind a ways to try to get people to be more courteous by waving them over a lane.
After the ordeal was over, she asked me why after all the money we had spent, that we were still having problems. And what we could do better.. Flat out said, what is the best? Whatever it takes, just do it. I told her about some reading I have been doing about Michelin XPS RIBS in the 16" LT tire... And that it would be a real expensive change as our TT had 5 lug rims, and would need 6 lug rims... Long story short. we did it and have never had a failure since. And we do not "baby" these tires one bit. In fact we do things with them that would have given me nightmares with ST tires.

I now read here and there about some supposedly better ST tires being made..
The Carlise with the new cap.... Well they already made all the money they ever will off of me.
This Hercules in this thread.. Never heard of them.
Maxxis has a good reputation here on the forum, but if one looks, there have been quite a few failures reported.. And I have no desire to own a tire that has to be ordered.. When I need a tire, I will likely need it NOW to go home on.

So no, I am not here trying to get the ST tire fans thread closed... Maybe some of these new tires will pan out.. It would be nice if it works out that way.. But I will not be a part of the experiment. Been there, done that, and bought too many T shirts.

AND there we "have it".. The race is on! :S

Yes it is. And it is amazing that no amount of Facts, Science, explaining the technology...nothing, even posting technical papers from the tire manufacturers does any good with the "LT crowd" as you call them. They insist that heir anecdotal evidence is stronger than the reality. I prefer to refer to them as the "Flat Earthers"

And their usual argument never holds water. That "ST tires are just a way to get their money". Well if there weren't ST tires they would still be buying SOME KIND of tire from the same manufacturers who build all kinds of tires. So I guess all of the Millions in R&D, Millions spent on Capital equipment to MFG the ST and more to market them is all just...on a WHIM?

Good Grief!

I have never heard of provider as were mentioned earlier on in this thread. They look interesting. They also come in load range E. I want to replace my stock goodyears after this winter season. That will be after 3 return trips to central Mexico on them. i am not sure I trust them beyond that. I do stay under 65.

My 185/80R13 Westlakes are also marked 75 mph on the sidewall. I rarely get above 65 except for a few minutes here and there, but a little cushion is reassuring, just like not being right at max weight rating

If you just throw some simple math into it you should be fine to run 70-75 on st tires. My Maxxis show 50 psi 1850 lbs Max, My trailer is maybe 6000 with full tanks,, I am well within parameters of these tires,, I run 70+ when able in California and have not had an issue yet. Buy an appropriate tire and you should be fine.

Why do you suppose it is so tough to build a tire (ST or LT) that does not blow and de-laminate with such predictable regularity?

It has been my experience that LT tires do not blow out or delaminate with regularity. In fact, on my trailers and trucks, I have never had an LT fail in either of those manners. The only ones I have "lost" have been due to nails, bolts or other road debris. I did ruin one nearly new tire when oddly enough ( I was off road ) I managed to get a locust tree needle through the sidewall. Small hole, but since it was sidewall, we discarded the tire.

Why do you suppose it is so tough to build a tire (ST or LT) that does not blow and de-laminate with such predictable regularity? Picture the space shuttle coming in for a landing and the treads flying apart on the tires. I don't get it. If I could build a tire that didn't do that I would be set for several lives.

Those Provider tires are an interesting find, thanks.

Hercules is owned by Cooper, made in the USA.

dodge guy wrote:
Let me know when they have one rated at 95mph! 75 is for the week!

Kumho 857 in the 14" sizes, and in 15" GoodYear G26 cargo. Both rated to 99mph

Let me know when they have one rated at 95mph! 75 is for the week!

The WestLakes that came on our new Open Range are also rated to 75 MPH. Actually says that on the sidewall.