The real HP/TQ numbers this is going to hurt!

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

2112 wrote:
The irony of this whole chest beating exhibition is it was started by someone that owns an Ecodiesel
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Oh s hit I didn't know that if you could only post about the vehicle you own. Good to know so that means you won't be posting anything about HD trucks then? Fishy you no longer can post anything about the f150 also right buddy lol.

BTW 2112 why are you even in a HD post? You own a f150 not a 250/350. Carry on boys!

Don

Hey I never comment on the little guys posts! :B

RCMAN46 wrote:

Acdii wrote:
From what I heard, the Ford engineered 6.7 is working out to be a good engine.

Not at all surprised at the results, how many V8 Diesels are in OTR trucks? Not many, usually straight 6 and 8 since they will produce more torque just by the fact they have more journals, one for each piston, where V8's have shared journals, and the V design takes away from the stroke where that torque comes from.

V8's, great for racing, but if you want a powerhouse for pulling a house down, you can't beat a straight 6. It's just too bad the Cummins in in a dodge. What the heck were they thinking putting a 5 foot bed on a dually?

Interesting that the V8 Duramax makes more torque at a lower RPM than the Cummings straight 6.

Also makes much more horsepower.

Also "interesting" is with all that HP and TQ why do they limit their towing to 23K ???

"It's just too bad the Cummins in in a dodge. What the heck were they thinking putting a 5 foot bed on a dually?"

It's been officially "RAM" since 2013. You may acyually want to test drive a 3500 LongHorn with AISIN then report back.

Some want to be able to haul a BIG 5er and have the truck fit in the garage.

I went to the 2017 towing video also, where they tested the same three. All did a great job, all are capable of handling most towing needs. I like the looks of all three. All I can go by is my trucks performance towing my 5th wheel, and I'm happy.. I know I would also be happy with a Chevy or a Ford... Awww, fresh air and no arguing is really nice:)

Jim

Look how many pages of BS have been posted over a test that is not real results. Only one ran a t redline was the Cummins. I don't know what the real results would be and it really dosen't matter. All three are good trucks that will do the job.

RCMAN46 wrote:

Acdii wrote:
From what I heard, the Ford engineered 6.7 is working out to be a good engine.

Not at all surprised at the results, how many V8 Diesels are in OTR trucks? Not many, usually straight 6 and 8 since they will produce more torque just by the fact they have more journals, one for each piston, where V8's have shared journals, and the V design takes away from the stroke where that torque comes from.

V8's, great for racing, but if you want a powerhouse for pulling a house down, you can't beat a straight 6. It's just too bad the Cummins in in a dodge. What the heck were they thinking putting a 5 foot bed on a dually?

Interesting that the V8 Duramax makes more torque at a lower RPM than the Cummings straight 6.

Also makes much more horsepower.

and uses more fuel. Put the same fuel through the I6 and you'll get more power.

Agree both of your inline vs V and torque, but comparing a forced fed to a NA is Apple's to oranges...

I race to the HP curve and tow to the Torque curve

You are the only one ever read here that thinks similar/same...thanks for your comments

Acdii wrote:
And even more interesting where my little 3.5 EB V6 makes torque at 1500 RPM where most V8's start making it up around 2500-3000 RPM.

I have driven a lot of different Semi's with different engine makes and each one had a different torque range and RPM. When it comes to pulling weight, torque is more important than HP. You can have a high HP engine making little torque, which is great if you are racing, but try pulling a trailer and you will get laughed at when a smaller low HP high torque engine pulls away from you.

BUT, no matter which one of the big 3 is purchased, they are all good strong tow rigs. It really comes down then to which truck appeals to that person.

Acdii wrote:
From what I heard, the Ford engineered 6.7 is working out to be a good engine.

Not at all surprised at the results, how many V8 Diesels are in OTR trucks? Not many, usually straight 6 and 8 since they will produce more torque just by the fact they have more journals, one for each piston, where V8's have shared journals, and the V design takes away from the stroke where that torque comes from.

V8's, great for racing, but if you want a powerhouse for pulling a house down, you can't beat a straight 6. It's just too bad the Cummins in in a dodge. What the heck were they thinking putting a 5 foot bed on a dually?

there are a couple of other more major reasons for a I-6 vs V-8 in big trucks.

1) A I-6 is one of the few engines that has excellent primary and secondary mechanical engine balance. important for smooth operation and in large displacement engines.

2) an inline engine is much easier to work on and design intake and exhaust systems for.
3) OTR trucks don't really need to worry about engine length, unlike cars and light trucks where a I-6 is noticeably longer than a V-8.

2112 wrote:
The irony of this whole chest beating exhibition is it was started by someone that owns an Ecodiesel
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Oh s hit I didn't know that if you could only post about the vehicle you own. Good to know so that means you won't be posting anything about HD trucks then? Fishy you no longer can post anything about the f150 also right buddy lol.

BTW 2112 why are you even in a HD post? You own a f150 not a 250/350. Carry on boys!

Don

And even more interesting where my little 3.5 EB V6 makes torque at 1500 RPM where most V8's start making it up around 2500-3000 RPM.

I have driven a lot of different Semi's with different engine makes and each one had a different torque range and RPM. When it comes to pulling weight, torque is more important than HP. You can have a high HP engine making little torque, which is great if you are racing, but try pulling a trailer and you will get laughed at when a smaller low HP high torque engine pulls away from you.

BUT, no matter which one of the big 3 is purchased, they are all good strong tow rigs. It really comes down then to which truck appeals to that person.