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- One good thing(among many) about living in North America is the fact that we have all of these full size trucks to choose from. Not everyone is the same or have the same wants and needs, so what may work for one may not for another. Why someone buys X truck may not be why someone else buys Y truck. Some vehicles have less power, but better fuel economy. Some makes may rather be conservative about power output for reliability and longevity concerns while others would rather be "Best in Class" in power for marketing reasons and are willing to forgo a little longevity for it. Some may be more concerned with creature comforts and technology while others may want a more simple vehicle.
The truth is, there is no vehicle on the market today that is right for everyone and I for one am not going to down another vehicle that fits someone else's needs but not my own. Yeah, trucks like a Ram Ecodiesel may be down on power form my needs, but it may be perfect for someone else that needs more fuel economy than power. My Ram 6.7L may be too much for someone else's needs, but are perfect for mine. Different strokes for different folks.
In regards to the threads topic about the power of these trucks, I would like to ask a few questions. Is power output the main reason why you purchased what you did? If something with less power suits your wants and needs just fine then what does it matter if something else has more power? If you are only going to ever use 350 hp then what does it matter if another engine has 400hp?
Lastly, in my many years of experience with engines and vehicles, I have found that it doesn't matter how much power is under the hood it is how much and how that power gets to the ground that counts. It also is not all about how an engine responds at wide open throttle that is the most important and in many cases how and engine responds at half or part throttle plays a bigger role in driver satisfaction. I for one would rather have more power and torque available in the rpms I drive (below 2,000 rpm) at part throttle than in the rpms that I don't drive in at full throttle. FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
This video was enjoyed by this forum 5 months ago! :C
Does it still hurt? :B
Just wait til the 19's come out. ;)
Hope they do a better job on the emissions than the first gen 6.7 cummins.
You has to go back 10 years for that one!Me Again wrote:
Some folks like you seem to be stuck in the past. There is not a single vehicle out there that has not had problems of some kind. You just need to move up to the current times.FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
This video was enjoyed by this forum 5 months ago! :C
Does it still hurt? :B
Just wait til the 19's come out. ;)
Hope they do a better job on the emissions than the first gen 6.7 cummins.
It is so easy for some to look past the 6.0 and 6.4 PS.FishOnOne wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
This video was enjoyed by this forum 5 months ago! :C
You didn't watch and hope for a different outcome did you?:B
You didn't performed that 65k mile EGR cooler, EGR Valve cleaning maintenance job yet have you? :B
Couple years to go yet.- Ram! Eatin Fords and Sh__ttin Chevies!!! Lol
Had to get in on the peeing match!
Love those new Dirtymaxes though and Ford now has the baddest looking dually on the road...see I love all you. FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
This video was enjoyed by this forum 5 months ago! :C
Does it still hurt? :B
Just wait til the 19's come out. ;)
Hope they do a better job on the emissions than the first gen 6.7 cummins.
Anything is better than a $10k fuel system repair!!!!Me Again wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
This video was enjoyed by this forum 5 months ago! :C
Does it still hurt? :B
Just wait til the 19's come out. ;)
Hope they do a better job on the emissions than the first gen 6.7 cummins.
It is so easy for some to look past the 6.0 and 6.4 PS.
Did you not see Shiner's statement?FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
This video was enjoyed by this forum 5 months ago! :C
Does it still hurt? :B
Just wait til the 19's come out. ;)
Hope they do a better job on the emissions than the first gen 6.7 cummins.
It is so easy for some to look past the 6.0 and 6.4 PS.- peak numbers are one bragging point. But when looking at acceleration or climbing a hill, it's only a part of the equation. The real thing to look at is the area under the torque curve used during acceleration or climbing. That's what really makes the difference. A broad flat torque curve will easily beat out a much higher peakier torque curve for acceleration or pulling.
That's what I'd like to see with a graph showing the combine area under the torque curve when accelerated from 0 to 70 mph or so, and from say 45 to 60 as well. - To be fair, all three diesels had their fair share of issues when emissions first came out.
