Towing high wall vs regarding pop up

Our hybrid (RIP) had some issues. So I'm not eager to jump back into a StarCraft. The Rockwood/Forest River Rhino look nice. A guy up in Rockwall is selling a 2004 Jayco that looks good if it has a furnace and commode.

Search for HW296 and Fleetwood Sequoia. They all tow very well. If you pulled a TT, a highwall will be nothing to you.
They are taller. Bondebond's trailer is 6' 11" tall closed, but he flipped the axle* on it.
Trailmanors are awesome too, but they are only 6' 4" tall inside and $$$.

You should stay with Fleetwood/Coleman highwalls if you are going that old. They are bulletproof, but don't get one with an ABS roof. They hold their value, too, so your budget may be a little low. Pre-Forest River Flagstaff/Rockwoods should be good. Jaycos and Starcrafts are good too. I'd get a Coleman/Fleetwood (they are identical) if I had my druthers...

*I love saying this! It gets 'em all riled up. LOL

Ha! I'll show him that one too...LOLOL

He's disabled.. so I do all the driving. I don't mind the driving/hauling. He works hard fitting all our STUFF into the entourage... so.. it's a win win.
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The Dung Beetles wrote:
Mileshuff...

I'm gonna SHOW your post to my hubby. I soooo want a 5th wheel, but he was set on a TT.

I do the driving.. I should get my way...hehe

Thanks!

If you do the driving you should get your way! :-)

Mileshuff...

I'm gonna SHOW your post to my hubby. I soooo want a 5th wheel, but he was set on a TT.

I do the driving.. I should get my way...hehe

Thanks!

The Dung Beetles wrote:
I recently wanted to go with a 5th wheel, but my hub is right. With alllllllllll the *stuff* we take with us (sans the Dung Beetle nickname) a bumper pull allows us to fill the truck canopy up with necessary items..

We did the opposite for the same reason. We bought a 5th wheel instead of a tow behind because the 5ths have far more storage. Most like ours have what 5'ers call a basement. A very large outside storage compartment. All our chairs, bbq, table, generator etc. all go here. Then in the front of the trailer is another large storage compartment for tools, hoses etc. The tow behind travel trailers that were the same size, same inside floorplan etc. lacked most of this storage. The only thing I need to put into the bed of the truck is an ice chest and it fits with room to spare with the 5th wheel hitch.

We loved our two popups and later a hybrid trailer but got tired of having to load up the bed of our truck and the floor of the trailer while towing. A 5th wheel has storage for everything!

18mpg wouldn't be bad. We had all the set up time with the hybrid. I don't think a pup would take much more. I remember having to unfold the pup to pack being a pain, but there are trade offs to every camper.

I'm going to keep an eye out on Craig's list and plan on probably not buying anything until late November. I'd like to pick up a large pup for around 3-4k. I've seen some HW pups for $4500-5500 for 2004ish year models. If these owners aren't able to sell by late November perhaps they'll be willing to deal.

Fun Town in Waco has a 2006 Rhino for $5500. I see the owner actually added a class 1 hitch to the back of it.

We hauled a Starcraft 2101 Pup for 2 years with our Trailblazer(same motor as yours) and got 18 mpg. When we started hauling the Hybrid, it dropped to 11 mpg at best. The Pup was about a foot lower than the TV. Wind resistance really kills the gas mileage.

The Dung Beetles wrote:
Morning Robmoo....

If a highwall is anything like a tent trailer I personally wouldn't go that route. We had a nice tent trailer for about 4 years and every time we had to set that up in the rain (or high wind) I swore it was going. We enjoyed the ease of towing it for sure, but it was not without it's draw backs. We went to a TT back in the mid-80's and have stayed with that type of unit ever since.

I don't think any trailer is perfect. they ALL have their "drawbacks".

On a nice summer night with all the screens open on my pup looking at stars and listening to nature then seeing the sunrise in the morning, to me stuck in a solid side 4 wall trailer is a huge drawback to my camping.

I have camped over 100 nights in the past few years and have set up in the rain once.


To the OP, a Highwall will be slightly above your envoy but I can't see any issues with towing one. They are just as heavy though so don't expect a huge power gain. The I6 has a bunch of torque. I am surprised you are not happy with its performance. As has been said slow is the key. 55-65mph is your range and you should always have good power.
As far as fuel eco....forget about it.it is still going to suck

goodluck

Morning Robmoo....

If a highwall is anything like a tent trailer I personally wouldn't go that route. We had a nice tent trailer for about 4 years and every time we had to set that up in the rain (or high wind) I swore it was going. We enjoyed the ease of towing it for sure, but it was not without it's draw backs. We went to a TT back in the mid-80's and have stayed with that type of unit ever since.

I recently wanted to go with a 5th wheel, but my hub is right. With alllllllllll the *stuff* we take with us (sans the Dung Beetle nickname) a bumper pull allows us to fill the truck canopy up with necessary items. Generators, wheelchair... dog pens... bbq.. etc. We have not mastered the art of traveling light... LOL

Sorry about your fire. That had to be a huge event. Having lost our home to a fire in 2003 I feel your pain.
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Good luck, also for security reasons we like something that locks up tight. It's a crazy world out there...
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