Thinking of swapping out my standard 3 step trailer steps for the 3 step Mor/ryde steps. Has anyone done this mod and if so what are the pros and cons if any? I know they are suppose to be more stable, any other reasons?. Thanks

Well, I'll chime in, but I've never installed them, I've just had campers with both kinds. My current 5er has them. Here's what I've found to be some of the pros and cons.Traditional folding camper steps:Pros: 1) When traveling, you can flip them down or open anywhere and they are immediately ready for use, even if the ground is horribly uneven. (Quick and easy.)2) The dirt they pick up stays outside the camper, as they are folded up outside the camper. Cons:1) They are shaky and sometimes feel somewhat unstable.2) In order to feel stable, you have to put a step jack under one of the steps.3) All the weight on the step is supported at the trailer door where the steps are attached and the steps never touch the ground. They usually have weight limits and if the limit is exceeded, they can bend.4) On my prior trailer the frame of the steps themselves actually cracked. Mine had 4 steps. That's a lot of leverage of the bottom step and with the wiggle it had, over time, like bending a wire over and over and over again, it cracked and broke. Because it was actually welded to the frame from the trailer and secondary screws into the door frame itself, I had to fabricate an L shaped brace to hook the whole thing back together again, which worked, but then going forward, I used one of those step RV supports under the middle step.5) They are slick. So you have to add an RV step carpet wrap on each step, or get friction stick-ons. 6) They are painted black. They begin to rust. After a very short while they begin to look horribly dull. So, mine got spray painted with Black Rust-o-lium quite often. 7) Because they are black, at night, if you don't have outside lights on, they are very hard to see, you can miss a step and fall. Mor/ryde steps:Cons:1) In order to use the, you have to open the door all the way to pull them down. If the door is not swung back completely, they hit the door. 2) When setting them up, the feet have to be adjusted every time you are at a new location. So, if traveling and you need to stop along the edge of the road, you have to open the door first, pull down the steps, and then they may not touch the ground. Each support leg has to be adjusted before you can step on them. 3) If the outside ground is too low, you have to put blocks under the steps so they have something solid to rest on. You absolutely cannot use them if they are not touching the ground on something solid.4) If the ground is too high, you can't adjust them any shorter. What happens, they are not completely "down", so where the steps lap over the threshold of the door, if that is not completely flat, you can't shut the door. (I've not run into this yet, but it is possible).... But I have had the feet adjusted too high and found the door will not shut as the bottom of the door will hit the step frame.5) If you don't sweep the steps off when you put them back up, the dirt will come inside the camper.6) In my case, my 5er is pretty tall. The door handle is also pretty tall from the ground. Considering the door has to be opened first, before the steps can come down, if traveling and you need to stop, and you are on the side of the road, and you are along a ditch, you might not be able to reach the door handle to open the door. Where as the folding traditional steps could have been just pulled out, you can then step on the steps, and you can reach the door latch. This has never happened to me, but we have stopped on the side of the road several times where I really had to reach to get the door open. If you are tall, this may not be a problem. If you are short, it can be a problem.Pros:1) They are VERY solid and can hold an incredible amount of weight. My wife and I both stood on ours at the same time. She was on the bottom step, I was on the top, and the thing never gave an pinch. Rock solid!2) They are silver colored aluminum, much easier to see at night.3) They fold inside the door of the trailer, making it harder for kids or thieves to fool around with your camper, also makes it harder to reach the door handle if they are "in" (depending on where you are parked). This is actually a good thing. Ours is so high and with no steps, a thief wanting to break in through the door would have a hard time just reaching the door.4) Although both feet have adjustments so they can reach the ground, even on uneven ground, they are pretty easy to adjust them. If you are camped at a permanent site for a while and you put the steps up every time you leave, you don't need to adjust them each time. They really are nice!-----So, if you ask me which do I like better? Well, I can honestly say, 100%, I like the Mor/ryde better.

I’ve only seen them at an RV show. Nice and stable. But I would not want them for the reasons stated above. 2 lightweight screw jacks under the bottom step make our folding steps just as solid feeling.

DutchmenSport wrote:Mor/ryde steps:Cons:If the outside ground is too low, you have to put blocks under the steps so they have something solid to rest on. You absolutely cannot use them if they are not touching the ground on something solid.If the ground is too high, you can't adjust them any shorter. What happens, they are not completely "down", so where the steps lap over the threshold of the door, if that is not completely flat, you can't shut the door. (I've not run into this yet, but it is possible).... But I have had the feet adjusted too high and found the door will not shut as the bottom of the door will hit the step frame.Pros:They are VERY solid and can hold an incredible amount of weight.These steps were a selling point for my choice of TT.I have had my TT sink into my yard, jamming the door with the step top hinge;(I pulled the foot pins, jammed the foot supports in to "hang" the steps, open the door, stow the steps and move the TT onto wide boards to prevent that sinking feeling.I learned at a hilly CG site to now ALWAYS open the door and lower the steps prior to disconnecting from the TV to insure I don't have to raise BOTH sides of the leveled TT for step/door use.I bring a lot of leveling blocks so I'm prepared if needed to have some under the step feet. One pro not mentioned is that they are larger than many other steps for easier and safer use.

I have never had them, but if they are half as good as our Glow Step Revolution, then they are worth the swap-out.

I am a bit surprised that no one has mentioned the Glow Step Revolution by Torklift. I have had them on my trailer for quite a while and they have none of the disadvantages mentioned in the posts above. They are rock solid under every condition we have encountered and can be deployed under just about all conditions. I highly recommend them and think they are priced a bit above the Mor/ryde steps but would be a good alternative choice.Barney

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Lantley
Nomad
Dec 28, 2018
I prefer the glowsteps as well.
They provide all of the pros of the Morryde with none of the cons.
Stability is what I am after however I don't want any of the cons or extra duties required of the MorRyde steps.
ependydad
Explorer
Dec 28, 2018
avoidcrowds wrote:
Bears Den, you should have gotten the GlowSteps. I have had them on two trailers, now, and much prefer them over my sister's MorRyde. The Cons listed above don't exist with the GlowSteps.

If we pay more for a better trailer, why are you opposed to paying a little more for a better step design? With three points of adjustment for the top step, and 6" of stabilizer adjustment, you can deploy the GlowSteps for any scenario. And, if you get the 3-step (or more, if you have a higher trailer), but end up parked where there is only room for two, you (I did) take off one step, so I still had perfect, stable steps for that week. Can't do that with a MorRyde.

Option to consider.

The GlowSteps really are that great. When we upgraded rigs, we had the dealer swap the OEM steps with our GlowSteps.

Full review:
http://learntorv.com/product-review-glowstep-revolution-by-torklift/
avoidcrowds
Explorer
Dec 28, 2018
Bears Den, you should have gotten the GlowSteps. I have had them on two trailers, now, and much prefer them over my sister's MorRyde. The Cons listed above don't exist with the GlowSteps.

If we pay more for a better trailer, why are you opposed to paying a little more for a better step design? With three points of adjustment for the top step, and 6" of stabilizer adjustment, you can deploy the GlowSteps for any scenario. And, if you get the 3-step (or more, if you have a higher trailer), but end up parked where there is only room for two, you (I did) take off one step, so I still had perfect, stable steps for that week. Can't do that with a MorRyde.

Option to consider.
GrandpaKip
Explorer II
Dec 17, 2018
red_neck_camper wrote:
Put the jackstands under the conventional steps to steady them.

Yep. Works under the bottom step or the second one equally well. $19 at Amazon (search aluminum leveling jack). Very light, easy to store. We also have one of those platforms that we use as a first step and a standard door mat fits on it. Really helps to keep from tracking in dirt.
red_neck_camper
Explorer
Dec 16, 2018
Put the jackstands under the conventional steps to steady them.
profdant139
Explorer II
Dec 16, 2018
Grandpa, I am a little confused -- are you saying we should use jackstands as step-stools?? Please forgive my befuddlement.
GrandpaKip
Explorer II
Dec 16, 2018
Aluminum jackstands were about $15. The difference is a whole bunch of Guinness.
2Rad4U
Explorer III
Dec 16, 2018
tbr2015 wrote:
I see the benefits stated but I would find them difficult to deploy at rest stops when you have a semi next to you. We tend to just climb on our closed steps so they are not taken off by a semi. We’ve had them close numerous times and I don’t like the idea of putting the dirt in my RV. According to the sales people they will be on all trailers in not too many years.

Why in the ... would you be that close to a semi? Ever?

For ... sake, sweep the steps off before you close up.

It ain't that hard people.
tbr2015
Explorer
Dec 16, 2018
I see the benefits stated but I would find them difficult to deploy at rest stops when you have a semi next to you. We tend to just climb on our closed steps so they are not taken off by a semi. We’ve had them close numerous times and I don’t like the idea of putting the dirt in my RV. According to the sales people they will be on all trailers in not too many years.
73guna
Explorer
Dec 15, 2018
I was close to buying the Morryde steps until someone mentioned you might not be able to deploy them if at your storage facility. I believe you need at least 4' of clearance to the side and if the trailer in the next stall is too close your going to have trouble getting the steps down.
Cant believe you passed the offer on Glowsteps. I love mine.

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