Uber expensive pickups...how much of a trend ?

So let me get this straight, we ***** about rv's being cheaply built or missing all the bells and whistles and how we would rather pay more for a quality unit, but we also ***** about trucks having all the bells and whistles and we really just want to drive sweatboxes while towing our chariot.

JAC1982 wrote:

Oh and for the record, the truck prior to this one was a 2014 F250 Platinum.. We traded that in for the dually when we decided to upgrade the trailer and they gave us more than what we owed on it even though we only had it a year. In our area at least, trucks hold their value relatively well. The dealerships keep more trucks on the lots than cars.

And there is the truck I sit back and wait for when I look to replace. You are not the only one that trades in almost new so if you not in a hurry there are some good deals on used.

Consumer spending is what drives the economy. When you buy a new truck, you are helping feed the autoworker, the transporter, the salesmen and mechanics at the dealer, and maybe the aftermarket guys if you accessorize. Even if you wait and buy used, you are helping the one you bought it from to keep the cycle going when they go buy a new one. Camping is a great life!

JAC1982 wrote:


We traded that in for the dually when we decided to upgrade the trailer and they gave us more than what we owed on it even though we only had it a year. In our area at least, trucks hold their value relatively well.

By the sounds of where you're at in life I fully believe that you can afford to drive nice vehicles. However, I remember years ago my BIL telling me what his 2 year old truck was worth...then with a hint of pride he told me that was a little more than what he owed on it. I remember thinking "so you're telling me you have nothing. What's the big deal?" At that time I couldn't believe that someone would borrow money to buy a vehicle. These days it seems many people are borrowing money to buy cars, trucks, RV's, motorcycles....boats, TVs, furniture, appliances...

JAC1982 wrote:
My husband and I are those people that buy expensiveish vehicles. The truck we have (in signature, Platinum model) sits in the garage most of the time. When we bought it, the husband traveled for work all the time so it was just used when he was in town to run errands locally, or for towing. It has something like 12,000 miles on it. My 2016 Explorer Sport, which was northward of $40k, just hit 20,000 miles. Now that he's not traveling, we bought a used 2016 Fusion Titanium EcoBoost this year to use as a "commuter" car.... basically to reduce the amount of miles on my Explorer for road trips where we don't bring our dogs or to go downtown.

But you know what? Who cares what we buy. We are DINKs with a very good income in our mid 30s. We own a modest 3 bed/2 bath house with a decent amount of equity, we save for retirement. What else should we be spending our money on? We don't eat out a lot, I bring my lunch to work, we don't hit up Starbucks 3 times a day, and we don't take expensive vacations (unless you count the toyhauler as an expensive vacation haha). WE like nice vehicles. Even before we were married we both had nice vehicles with all the bells and whistles.

I say if people can afford it, who cares.

Oh and for the record, the truck prior to this one was a 2014 F250 Platinum. We traded that in for the dually when we decided to upgrade the trailer and they gave us more than what we owed on it even though we only had it a year. In our area at least, trucks hold their value relatively well. The dealerships keep more trucks on the lots than cars.

Good for you
The skinflints around here would have use believe expensive trucks are forced on them ,but if you check production numbers there is very high demand for more and pricer trucks .
Cadillac is rumoured to be considering a 100,000 + truck .
I bet they sell every one
I bet the boys here will have a coronary

My husband and I are those people that buy expensiveish vehicles. The truck we have (in signature, Platinum model) sits in the garage most of the time. When we bought it, the husband traveled for work all the time so it was just used when he was in town to run errands locally, or for towing. It has something like 12,000 miles on it. My 2016 Explorer Sport, which was northward of $40k, just hit 20,000 miles. Now that he's not traveling, we bought a used 2016 Fusion Titanium EcoBoost this year to use as a "commuter" car.... basically to reduce the amount of miles on my Explorer for road trips where we don't bring our dogs or to go downtown.

But you know what? Who cares what we buy. We are DINKs with a very good income in our mid 30s. We own a modest 3 bed/2 bath house with a decent amount of equity, we save for retirement. What else should we be spending our money on? We don't eat out a lot, I bring my lunch to work, we don't hit up Starbucks 3 times a day, and we don't take expensive vacations (unless you count the toyhauler as an expensive vacation haha). WE like nice vehicles. Even before we were married we both had nice vehicles with all the bells and whistles.

I say if people can afford it, who cares.

Oh and for the record, the truck prior to this one was a 2014 F250 Platinum. We traded that in for the dually when we decided to upgrade the trailer and they gave us more than what we owed on it even though we only had it a year. In our area at least, trucks hold their value relatively well. The dealerships keep more trucks on the lots than cars.

ShinerBock wrote:

mkirsch wrote:
Sure they have lower trim levels, fewer options, but good luck finding one! ALL the trucks on the lot are the fancy decked out ones because those are the ones they can make more money on.

Order one? A barebones 2500HD Chevy regular cab 4x4 gasser is north of $40,000! Besides, dealers don't want to order one, they only want to sell what they have on the lot.

...and I don't give a **** how you spend YOUR money, I only care about how I spend mine. I don't want to spend that much and the dealers are making it just about impossible to do it.

Really? It took me less than 5 minutes to find a regular cab Silverado 2500HD on a dealers lot for less than $40k in Rochester, New York.

NEW 2017 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 2500HD

The new strip-downs can be found on the dealer lots. A buddy just bought a new 2017 Ford F250 6.2L. It has AC, tilt, radio, and are you ready -- roll-up windows! He didn't want power windows and they had one equipped the way he wanted it sitting on the lot!

RinconVTR wrote:

mich800 wrote:

RinconVTR wrote:
High volume is suppose to equal lower price. Yet this simple law of economics has no place in the truck and SUV business apparently! In this category, high volume = higher prices.

Pick-up trucks in particular are a hot trend over the last few years that shows no sign of declining and prices continue to increase significantly.

OEM's are raking in the cash on these high margin sales...make no mistake about it.

And there is no stopping the trend...until fuel hits $4-5 per gallon.

You are confusing supply with demand. High demand yields higher prices. High supply without demand will yield lower prices.

No confusion. Just a different "law" I was referring to.

There's not enough demand to drive prices. And there is plenty of supply to keep up with demand.

Generally higher volume production quanties = lower costs.

What you are describing is a downward sloping supply curve. Yes in some industries like computers this is true. It does not apply in the automotive industry. In the automotive industry the input prices are generally increasing. Of course tooling and fixed costs are amortized over a larger quantity but variable costs do increase.

"There's not enough demand to drive prices. And there is plenty of supply to keep up with demand. "

The OEM's are simply meeting the demand at their price point but would gladly supply more if there was demand. If demand falls they will supply fewer at a lower price.

mkirsch wrote:
Sure they have lower trim levels, fewer options, but good luck finding one! ALL the trucks on the lot are the fancy decked out ones because those are the ones they can make more money on.

This is what I found, trying to find a used truck to pull my new heavier TT.
75% of the newer used trucks had upgraded packages, which reduces payload and towing capacities.

Took me months to find a F150 XLT with satisfactory towing numbers.
I hate leather seats and all the extra bling is useless. Don't need sunroof, heated seats, Bose stereo and so on.

I paid a little more for my 08 F150 than I wanted a little earlier this year. It was $Mid teens. But it only had 64,000 miles. It’s a pretty basic truck with XLT trim, power options, and a SuperCrew cab. but is exactly what I wanted, what I needed, and more importantly what I could afford.

I could have pushed my budget and got a new F150 but the $25k I saved can be spent on something else.

I know that this is a towing/RV forum and lots of folks on here have to have the latest and the greatest and the most powerful. I’ve seen it over and over on this forum through the years, people hear their truck working on a hill after they tow for the first time, get scared, and go spend 65k on a truck so they can pull up a Hill 15-30 seconds faster. That’s all fine and good, But for a lot of people older pickups get the job done while saving buckets and buckets of cash.

I do like seeing people buy new trucks. There would be no used bargains if people stopped buying new trucks. ;)

Thanks!!

Jeremiah