Upgrading Brakes Question

Sounds very similar to my current setup on my Suburban.

As for stopping distance, sure up to a point...with tire traction being the ultimate limiting component

Modulation can help greatly in stopping distances, if the driver knows the HOW2’s of that. ABS actually limits my stopping distances on dry pavement

Hadn’t checked out their site, but if the pricing is as stated...not sure I’d be interested, as my current setup already there. Plus buddies sample prototypes are free, for now. He sold his small consulting/prototyping biz to one of the biggies after his daughter was born....reliable income of higher priority. Still get samples, but can’t ID him

Of course there are other things that would help traction and again only up to a point

Reducing sidewall bend-back via much wider rims, the right PSI for your setup, the suspension and even super tuning calipers. Any binding of the slides will affect modulation....why fixed caliper best for high end performance modulation

Cummins12V98 wrote:

mich800 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

GDS-3950BH wrote:
EBC may be better, but not better enough to justify $250+ for a set of pads or $700 for a pad and rotor kit, for one axle IMO. I suspect more about bragging rights than stopping power.

Not sure I paid that much but I guess you will never know how well they work. No bragging here! Just reporting my experience.

How much shorter are your stopping distances, cold and hot? Are they only better on the hot side of the scale or all around?

Better all around. I don’t have any distance info but based on pedal pressure there is a huge difference. They seem to work the same hot or cold.

I have run similar setups on different vehicles. Pedal feel, modulation, and confidence was always better. But I didn’t get any big gains in actual stopping distance but worth the investment if changing. I think at that point was being held back by rotor size and caliper design. Cannot beat the feeling of modern large disk and fixed caliper setups in sport car and suv’s today.

I have used EBC and I like them. I believe the compound needs less peddle effort to produce the same braking effort. EBC gives a very different feel.

mich800 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

GDS-3950BH wrote:
EBC may be better, but not better enough to justify $250+ for a set of pads or $700 for a pad and rotor kit, for one axle IMO. I suspect more about bragging rights than stopping power.

Not sure I paid that much but I guess you will never know how well they work. No bragging here! Just reporting my experience.

How much shorter are your stopping distances, cold and hot? Are they only better on the hot side of the scale or all around?

Better all around. I don’t have any distance info but based on pedal pressure there is a huge difference. They seem to work the same hot or cold.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

GDS-3950BH wrote:
EBC may be better, but not better enough to justify $250+ for a set of pads or $700 for a pad and rotor kit, for one axle IMO. I suspect more about bragging rights than stopping power.

Not sure I paid that much but I guess you will never know how well they work. No bragging here! Just reporting my experience.

How much shorter are your stopping distances, cold and hot? Are they only better on the hot side of the scale or all around?

GDS-3950BH wrote:
EBC may be better, but not better enough to justify $250+ for a set of pads or $700 for a pad and rotor kit, for one axle IMO. I suspect more about bragging rights than stopping power.

Not sure I paid that much but I guess you will never know how well they work. No bragging here! Just reporting my experience.

EBC may be better, but not better enough to justify $250+ for a set of pads or $700 for a pad and rotor kit, for one axle IMO. I suspect more about bragging rights than stopping power.

fj12ryder wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
Our trucks need great brakes if we are ever in an emergency situation. The thing is I've never been in an emergency situation. There has been a couple times on my bike that I hit the brakes a little hard for a split second and it seems it takes very little effort to skid the back wheel. (My bike doesn't have antilock braking). My point is I could spend money on expensive brakes but how would I guage the improvement.

If I kept my truck long enough I think I would get about 200k miles on the factory brakes.

It sounds as though part of your problem is not-so-good technique on your bike. Basically stay off the rear brake mostly. The front does the majority of the braking so use them to their full advantage. About the only time I use the bake brake is at parking lot speeds or maneuvering at slow speeds. I don't think I could lock up the rear brake short of standing on it, just the way I like it.

Sounds like the brakes on my bike are already too good. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find I could disable the anti lock braking on my truck and find those brakes are too good as well.:)

I read EBC’s breakin. Yes on my HD they took time so I was cautious.

On both trucks and RV that simply was not true. They have gotten better but the fact is they were insanely better than what I replaced in a short time.

All wheels had new or turned rotors.

What’s amazing is I only did the fronts on my DRW with a huge improvement. Rears will go on this spring when at home base.

4x4ord wrote:
Our trucks need great brakes if we are ever in an emergency situation. The thing is I've never been in an emergency situation. There has been a couple times on my bike that I hit the brakes a little hard for a split second and it seems it takes very little effort to skid the back wheel. (My bike doesn't have antilock braking). My point is I could spend money on expensive brakes but how would I guage the improvement.

If I kept my truck long enough I think I would get about 200k miles on the factory brakes.

It sounds as though part of your problem is not-so-good technique on your bike. Basically stay off the rear brake mostly. The front does the majority of the braking so use them to their full advantage. About the only time I use the bake brake is at parking lot speeds or maneuvering at slow speeds. I don't think I could lock up the rear brake short of standing on it, just the way I like it.