What is F450 crew cab Payload

My 2019 F-350 DRW gasser has the 14000# option. Because the gas engine is lighter than the diesel option, my payload capacity is 6500#. It is a real joy to load and go with this stock setup. Also the new Ford Super Duty frames are so stiff, I could give up my Lance struts. Who says aluminum doesn't have its advantages. F-450 unnecessary IMHO

Rick

burningman wrote:
I can’t imagine buying a CC and adding a bed is realistically worth bothering with.....

I think it's a nutty idea...but that is from my perspective. It has been pointed out to me in the past that many are in states that punish flatbeds (i.e.. non - pickup configurations) to the point of pain. It's just not a viable option for many, so the bed becomes a solution. It's really only a matter of bolting it on and plugging the wires in.

Kayteg1 wrote:
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C&C has different frame, so standart bed will not fit. At least it did not in the past.....

Not sure about the 'past'.. Our old 2007 had a bolt on bed...which would fit anything up to a 16' or so.

SoonDockin wrote:


I think it all comes down to the legality of overloading the rated GVWR. That and possible insurance void because of said overload.

Yea... and that is a story that has no legs and keeps getting repeated. Show me..

Everyone is still waiting for an example of that.
At least in the U.S., trucks are not legally held to manufacturers ratings.
They’re held to the DOT’s rules, which have nothing to do with what the manufacturers say.
And actually they don’t even care what the tire’s ratings are, they go by width.

Current day pickup truck load ratings are absolutely phony, not engineering limits.

burningman wrote:

The biggest thing that drives me nuts about RV.Net is all the “chicken little sky is falling” worrying about the exact payload ratings on 2500/3500/4500 trucks as if it had anything to do with reality.
It doesn’t. You do need to stay within what your tires can take.

I think it all comes down to the legality of overloading the rated GVWR. That and possible insurance void because of said overload.

To answer the question, real world 450 pickup payload is around 7klbs but with some added suspension.
The OE ratings , if they start with a 4, are quite under rated for what the truck is capable of safely.

Haven’t seen a truck camper yet that would be overkill for any of the F450 pickup variants.
Yes they’re sprung softer than the c/c trucks and may not have as heavy rear axle components. Ford has chenged up their axle offerings a couple times but they’re all 11klb or more rated axles. Although I’d take a Dana S110 or 130 over a corporate axle if given the choice. The m300 or whatever it’s called is just fine, just the big Danas are mo betta.
Other stuff, bigger brakes on a c/c truck, not a factor with TCs even towing moderate. The big brakes are for the trucks with 30k + tow rating.
Frame? I’d take a new style Ford boxed pickup frame without issue In lieu of a straight rail. It’ll hold up fine and pretty stiff.
And if you want a pickup bed that matches the truck cc is not an option unless you have some good fabrication skills.

I considered the F450/F550 cab and chassis route myself before buying the truck in my sig. There are pluses and minuses to the C and C’s, and in the end I decided the minuses just weren’t worth dealing with for me.

I’ve hauled my current camper on an older F350, a 2010 F450 pickup, and my current 2016 F450 pickup. I don’t tow a trailer very often these days, and never tow with the TC. Other than hauling my TC, I have no need for a medium duty truck with a flatbed or utility bed. I actually like the look of the standard pickup bed, and it serves my needs just fine. I like the bigger brakes, the 19.5’s, and the wide-track front axle on the F450 pickups.

One big plus that almost swayed me towards the F450 C/C is that you could still get the V10 gas engine in it. The V10 is a very powerful, refined and reliable gas engine. It had some well known issues in its early days, but those problems are long gone. If it had been an option in the F450 pickup, I probably would have chosen it. I believe it’s still offered in the current models of medium duty C/C trucks. The downside of choosing the V10 though is the rear axle ratio. The only one available is 4.88, and I didn’t want that. I think the 4.30 rear end in my current truck is a little overkill, but 4.10 wasn’t an available option.

Another downside of the C/C trucks for me is that the highest trim level available is Lariat. No King Ranch or Platinum, and I wanted a KR. So, those things plus the added expense of putting a pickup bed on made me rule out the C/C trucks. I decided to buy the F450 pickup and just ignore the phony GVWR they put on it. I’ve never weighed my current truck and camper, but I know approximately what each weighs and I’m likely a few hundred pounds over 14K.

If you’re considering used trucks and a standard pickup bed will work for you, I honestly think the 2015-2016 F450 pickups are some of the best trucks available. Those were the last two years of that generation of Superduties, and there are very few problems with them. The best part about my current truck is that the boss loved our 2010 F450, and there was no question what we were going to replace it with.

:):)

SoonDockin wrote:
I missed that link earlier. Looks like some good detailed info. Thanks.
Maybe I should look at getting a cab & chassis and adding a pickup bed. Wonder how involved that would be.

C&C has different frame, so standart bed will not fit. At least it did not in the past.
I did the modification on my 2006 F350 when utility bed created too many problems for TC.
But I bought Dodge bed very cheap and spend good day welding.

I can’t imagine buying a CC and adding a bed is realistically worth bothering with.
There isn’t a truck camper out there that’s gonna break an F450 pickup.
The biggest thing that drives me nuts about RV.Net is all the “chicken little sky is falling” worrying about the exact payload ratings on 2500/3500/4500 trucks as if it had anything to do with reality.
It doesn’t. You do need to stay within what your tires can take.

SoonDockin wrote:
I missed that link earlier. Looks like some good detailed info. Thanks.
Maybe I should look at getting a cab & chassis and adding a pickup bed. Wonder how involved that would be.

About 8 bolts I think..maybe it was 6. Either way, I've still got a bed and the filler piece I junked off an F550.....

As stated, the PU versions are not the same as the CC's.