What is the risk of exceeding payload?
Depending on what vehicle we buy, our Airstream will be a 27' twin, or 30' bunk. If we buy the Ford F-250 diesel, will get 30'. But if we are able to safely tow the 27' twin with Tundra, we are going ...
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blt2ski wrote:jtallon wrote:blt2ski wrote:
The problem you have with the speed limit plus 5 on an 8% grade as you stated in an earlier post. This is non realistic!
It wasn't meant to be realistic. It was meant to be an exaggeration (even though some do seem to expect it), a contrast against the "30mph with no AC" days of towing in yesteryear.
There's a realistic, happy, safe medium here. Somewhere that we can tow safely, with adequate performance and a safety margin. But without having to all purchase an MDT to accomplish it. Where that medium lies, and how to achieve it is obviously the subject of a LOT of threads on RV.net.
Whether exaggeration or real expectation, What you stated is non realistic. So it really does not do anyone any good to say so.
Then going from towing specs, from payload specs are two different problems too. The OP does not have the ability to tow to some degree just about anything with the toyota. I needed a SW 1 ton to tote a 7000 lbs travel trailer when I was towing with my 4 kids. I had said toyota at gvwr BEFORE loading a trailer, much less after loading a trailer! Even with that 1 ton I was going 35-45 up a lot of steeper freeway grades, with the AC on at least. That frankly is a reasonble expectation, which is what the J2087 specs say one should be able to do minimum. I would expect either of the rigs the OP asked about to do this. But 60 or 65 up an 8% grade.....Not even sure some empty semi tractors would do that, depending upon if they were specd for city, vs highway pulling.
Marty
I was purely commenting in response to Turtle n Peeps comment, not commenting on the OP's situation at all. It seems to me Danattherock has his situation settled with a decision to purchase an F350 or 3500.
I was trying (unsuccessfully, apparently) to suggest that we have very different expectations today than we did in the 60's and 70's, and that what we put up with back then would clearly not pass muster with our elevated expectations today. I thought the 8% grade at 5 over the speed limit at 9000 feet without dropping a gear was sufficiently unrealistic enough to be seen as poetic license, not a literal expectation. I misjudged.
I'll stick to being painstakingly literal going forward.
