Wolf Creek 840/850

SoonDockin wrote:

hedge wrote:
sure a lot of similarity between those two models and the Adventurer 86FB and 89RB.

The floor plan might be similar, but the Wolf Creek campers are almost a foot shorter. You will never get a Adventurer 86FB or 89RB under a 12 ft door, where there is a good chance you can with the WC 840 and 850.

Measured 11'3" from the TV antenna down with 2014 WC850 on 2013 4X4 F-350 and call it 11'-6" just to give myself a safety margin....if/when I encounter that sign along the road that implies 12' clearance.

Personally avoided the Adventurer as I wanted visibility thru the camper....the Adventerer eliminates the pass-thru window.

anutami wrote:

Exlporer wrote:

SoonDockin wrote:
That sofa does look nice. How much storage is there underneath?

Back to the countertop issue. If you look at the floor plans, it appears to me that the 840 has a larger counter. There seems to be more space behind the sink and between the cooktop and sink. Also the overhead cabinets appear to be a bit longer and deeper, the 840 puts up a good fight in both categories. It's just missing the pantry option the 850 has.

There is zero storage under the roll-over-sofa as it is on the part of the camper that hangs over the truck bed rails. In the 850 you loose the "stubby-cubby" near the door and the smaller cabinet at the forward end of the dinette. The 840 dinette appears to have a little more storage space based on the sketches.

I went with the traditional dinette because of the storage underneath and there seems to be a little more seating. It is a pain making the bed every night for my 9 year because I don't want things getting thrashed so you have to be somewhat careful. You have to put the table somewhere so why not as a platform for the bed? I believe the 840 has the exact same dinette as the 850, but it is just flipped, so the "stubby cubby" is toward the fridge.


Here is us all sitting at the dinette. It is nice we all can get in there, and face one another. It seems cramped but in comparison all other non slide brands this is a lot of real estate.

I think there is a good argument for both the booth and sofa. I doubt I will try and order a camper, so I'll just see what is available when we do our grand road/acquisition trip in a few weeks.

hedge wrote:
sure a lot of similarity between those two models and the Adventurer 86FB and 89RB.

The floor plan might be similar, but the Wolf Creek campers are almost a foot shorter. You will never get a Adventurer 86FB or 89RB under a 12 ft door, where there is a good chance you can with the WC 840 and 850.

sure a lot of similarity between those two models and the Adventurer 86FB and 89RB.

Exlporer wrote:

SoonDockin wrote:
That sofa does look nice. How much storage is there underneath?

Back to the countertop issue. If you look at the floor plans, it appears to me that the 840 has a larger counter. There seems to be more space behind the sink and between the cooktop and sink. Also the overhead cabinets appear to be a bit longer and deeper, the 840 puts up a good fight in both categories. It's just missing the pantry option the 850 has.

There is zero storage under the roll-over-sofa as it is on the part of the camper that hangs over the truck bed rails. In the 850 you loose the "stubby-cubby" near the door and the smaller cabinet at the forward end of the dinette. The 840 dinette appears to have a little more storage space based on the sketches.

I went with the traditional dinette because of the storage underneath and there seems to be a little more seating. It is a pain making the bed every night for my 9 year because I don't want things getting thrashed so you have to be somewhat careful. You have to put the table somewhere so why not as a platform for the bed? I believe the 840 has the exact same dinette as the 850, but it is just flipped, so the "stubby cubby" is toward the fridge.


Here is us all sitting at the dinette. It is nice we all can get in there, and face one another. It seems cramped but in comparison all other non slide brands this is a lot of real estate.

SoonDockin wrote:
That sofa does look nice. How much storage is there underneath?

Back to the countertop issue. If you look at the floor plans, it appears to me that the 840 has a larger counter. There seems to be more space behind the sink and between the cooktop and sink. Also the overhead cabinets appear to be a bit longer and deeper, the 840 puts up a good fight in both categories. It's just missing the pantry option the 850 has.

There is zero storage under the roll-over-sofa as it is on the part of the camper that hangs over the truck bed rails. In the 850 you loose the "stubby-cubby" near the door and the smaller cabinet at the forward end of the dinette. The 840 dinette appears to have a little more storage space based on the sketches.

The roll-over-sofa makes very easily into a nice bed and you don't have to fight with cushion gaps.

The sketches do appear to show more counter space but again no counter extension option. The sink cover could help a bit. I didn't need the extra counter space so I didn't choose the sink cover or counter extension.....knowing I could get those later if needs changed.

As for the table, as far as I know, it is the same size regardless of dinette or roll-over-sofa choice. It is nice to be able to slide it in/out when sitting or walking past it in the 850. It is a bit awkward to store as there is no designated place to store it. With the dinette it is part of the bed, not so with the roll-over-sofa. It can be laid on the queen bed or bunk-bed during the day, but it all the beds will be used at night my plan is to stand it on end in front of the stove and bungee it to the stove handle so it doesn't tip over. I do wish northwoods mfg. would have addressed this issue, my previous camper had a couple brackets in the roof that allowed you to slide the table into for overhead storage....may look into doing that myself at some future date if the need arises.

I to had to deal with the lack of no local dealers and nothing stocked locally. I never saw a real live wolf creek 850 until the day I saw mine! I'm happy with the dealer I chose even though they are 5 1/2 hours away. I studied a lot of dealer listings, photos and videos and emailed "magazine publishers" and read several articles and write-ups here on rv.net and on the internet.

Have you considered a factory tour? Or even a trip to a dealer that has both on the lot? Also call dealers near and far to ask questions and get quotes.......that will shed a LOT of light on who knows their product and who you should actually shop with. I was both surprised and disappointed with most dealers within a days drive. Then again I live in the "burmuda triangle" of truck camper dealerships.....the have all disappeared from this area!

Also be careful of the due date a dealer (especially a smaller one) gives you if I had it to do over I think I would have made a few calls to northwoods mfg. myself. I ordered mine in March 2013 and was told, by the dealership it would be delivered in August and would be the very first 2014, it was delivered at the end of October 2014 well after the newly designed 2014's were showing up on dealer lots out West. The Salesman blamed the manufacturer a lot, I just blamed it on the model changeover.

I like the open bed area of the 850. That was a key issue when we were shopping last year. That's "my" side of the bed and I like my feet to dangle off the end.
We have the dinette, and it's tight for two people sitting side by side, trying to eat or plan a route. We're not big people (6' 205lbs & 5'3" 125lbs). It's also a little bit of a hassle to skootch around the table in order for two to sit next to each other. If I had it to do over, with our experience of 25 nights/days in the camper since we bought it in December, I'd seriously consider the sofa. It appears to have a larger table, too, but I'm not certain about that. If I had to make the dinette into a bed every night, I'd definetly go with the sofa. The dinette cushions are sufficient padding-wise, but the 90 degree form of the seat to back is harsh. It's nice to have a little storage under the dinette, though.

Here are the floor plans.


840


850

Thanks for that info. If I had a local dealer, I might consider ordering. As it is the closest one to me that actually stocks Wolf Creek is 600 miles away.

Would you be happy with your rebuilt one? I saw your pictures of it falling off. EEK.

I looked at the Adventurer campers. In the end it was the lower height of the Wolf Creek that really sold me. I figure a savings of 1ft by 8ft of wind resistance. That seems huge to me. Also the lower center of gravity has to be a good thing.

SoonDockin wrote:


When do you expect to get your special order? I would like to have one in June and may have to settle for what the dealers have.

If you want the 850 by June you will definitely need to settle with what the dealers have or score a used one. They schedule to build only 1 model each week. The 850's are due for the first week in May (I ordered it in January!)and the schedule has been soldout/full out for some time. They probably won't run the 850's again until jul/aug/sept. it depends on how many of the other models they get orders for. Apparantly Northwood is doing great as all models are selling very well right now. You might want to check when the next run for the 840's are. I think youn may be able order one and get it in June, but would need to get on the schedule asap as they will fill up fast. The WC campers are HOT campers right now. I am very curious to see what other manufactures have up their sleeves to keep up with the competition. I called Eagle cap/adventurer back in January to see if eagle cap thinking about building a non-slide camper and they said YES!

The guy who bought mine at auction has it for sale on ebay, and it looks brand new again! Wolf Creek 850 looking brand new again