You choose - loaded gas or basic diesel?

OhhWell wrote:

Javi1 wrote:

mtofell1 wrote:

jasult wrote:
yep, any one who keeps their truck for long haul will buy a diesel.

This has been the standard diesel mantra for the last 10+ years and I have to call BS. Not on you, jasult, by any means... just the theory that gets thrown around. Yes, the engine (and maybe a good tranny) will last 250K or more but there are A LOT of other components in modern day trucks that don't last anywhere near that long and are REALLY expensive.

Turbos, injectors, head gaskets to name some of the more expensive ones. Then there are just the normal truck things that aren't going to last anywhere near as long as the engine - hubs, suspension parts, interior finishes, dash lights, power windows, exhaust systems, starters, alternators, water pumps.

Realistically, if people want a diesel, buy it for the towing performance. Don't get sucked into thinking you'll keep it until you're 70 years old. Unless you're a mechanic or want to become one.

I'll bet my '12 F250 diesel is still going strong when I hit 70

How long do we have to wait to find out?

5 years LOL

I think most of these decisions are really personal preference. As to whether or not to get a loaded truck, really is up to the people riding in it. I have had work trucks, LT and SLT trim levels, I prefer the well equipped pickups. I am willing to pay more for more convenience, by the time I trade it back in, the cost of the better equipped pickup is nil. As to diesel, at that weight, and given the OP is a 1000 miles away from any considerable elevation, a gas truck certainly would get the job done. Granted a diesel would not break a sweat at those weights and assuming your trying to stay at a certain price point, a diesel in my view is a luxury decision just as is the upscale interior. The only person that can put a value on those issues is the guy writing the check. Given only those options provided, and assuming I am spending a considerable amount of time in it, I would get a high end gas truck. Paying a dollar more a gallon, and more expensive maintenance costs for a load that can easily be pulled by a gas truck does not make much sense to me. Add more weight to the equation and I would change my mind.

Javi1 wrote:

mtofell1 wrote:

jasult wrote:
yep, any one who keeps their truck for long haul will buy a diesel.

This has been the standard diesel mantra for the last 10+ years and I have to call BS. Not on you, jasult, by any means... just the theory that gets thrown around. Yes, the engine (and maybe a good tranny) will last 250K or more but there are A LOT of other components in modern day trucks that don't last anywhere near that long and are REALLY expensive.

Turbos, injectors, head gaskets to name some of the more expensive ones. Then there are just the normal truck things that aren't going to last anywhere near as long as the engine - hubs, suspension parts, interior finishes, dash lights, power windows, exhaust systems, starters, alternators, water pumps.

Realistically, if people want a diesel, buy it for the towing performance. Don't get sucked into thinking you'll keep it until you're 70 years old. Unless you're a mechanic or want to become one.

I'll bet my '12 F250 diesel is still going strong when I hit 70

How long do we have to wait to find out?

mtofell1 wrote:

jasult wrote:
yep, any one who keeps their truck for long haul will buy a diesel.

This has been the standard diesel mantra for the last 10+ years and I have to call BS. Not on you, jasult, by any means... just the theory that gets thrown around. Yes, the engine (and maybe a good tranny) will last 250K or more but there are A LOT of other components in modern day trucks that don't last anywhere near that long and are REALLY expensive.

Turbos, injectors, head gaskets to name some of the more expensive ones. Then there are just the normal truck things that aren't going to last anywhere near as long as the engine - hubs, suspension parts, interior finishes, dash lights, power windows, exhaust systems, starters, alternators, water pumps.

Realistically, if people want a diesel, buy it for the towing performance. Don't get sucked into thinking you'll keep it until you're 70 years old. Unless you're a mechanic or want to become one.

I'll bet my '12 F250 diesel is still going strong when I hit 70

Paul Clancy wrote:
Modern gas towing engine replaced incl labour 3G?? Don't believe so.

Well there a posting on here recently of a Excursion V10 replacement that ran near or more than $8K.

Shop labor still runs about $100 an hour dealer or not.

Modern gas towing engine replaced incl labour 3G?? Don't believe so.

bucky wrote:
When you're stuck somewhere for a month because nobody can fix your diesel, that gasser will look pretty good. I can blow an engine or a tranny anywhere in this country and be back on the road in 36 hours for ~$3K. Read some of the horror stories here and on the Ford forums if you don't believe me. Ford will deny any claim, citing water in the fuel usually. Chip it, you are done regardless of brand. If you think they won't know or can't tell you are dreaming. I can pull the entire flash history of your truck in about 10 minutes. If I go back to diesel, it'll be a 5.9 Cummins. The Dmaxs are still too pricey, and as to Ford........Nah!

this is why I buy all my diesel trucks used. I know how to fix them.
i never have to worry about a warranty. I do the work and if you under stand them there is no problem. Most problems start wnen you take it back to dealer and a under trained diesel guy starts throwing parts at it on your dime. My Black truck in signature was on ford used lot and was listed as a NON RUNNING truck. I bought it and fixed all the minor problems and it tows my fiver any where I want to go along with a bullet proof BTS trans that Brian shipped to me.
Stock trans could not take the power of my injectors and chip

When you're stuck somewhere for a month because nobody can fix your diesel, that gasser will look pretty good. I can blow an engine or a tranny anywhere in this country and be back on the road in 36 hours for ~$3K. Read some of the horror stories here and on the Ford forums if you don't believe me. Ford will deny any claim, citing water in the fuel usually. Chip it, you are done regardless of brand. If you think they won't know or can't tell you are dreaming. I can pull the entire flash history of your truck in about 10 minutes. If I go back to diesel, it'll be a 5.9 Cummins. The Dmaxs are still too pricey, and as to Ford........Nah!

biljo99 wrote:
Diesel with bells and whistles.

I think these new 6.7 engines are setting a standard for future heavy pick up trucks. They are expensive but you are getting one tough engine. I have been doing all my own wrenching on diesels since I was 16 years old. Now at age of 61 I see the newest Fords 6.7 one of the best to hit the market since the 7.3

Diesel with bells and whistles.