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Buying a Former Rental Class C. How many of us out there?

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
While researching these pages for my next Motor Home I saw a few threads discussing Rentals, most were Pros and Cons but very few posts from people who had purchased one.

I thought it may be a good resource and helpful to hear from these people. The good, the bad, what they liked and what they didnโ€™t. Also if they had any problems, things they changed, if they would recommend this to others or do it again.

Here is my story: I am not a novice, having owned a Class A for more than 15 years and doing the camping thing with my wife and two daughters, I can say โ€œbeen there done thatโ€ But life changes, and I sold everything so I have been away from this for several years. Starting over I lurked here for a while and got a lot of good insight then went looking.

My criteria was: A Class C within by budget, less than 30 feet so I can keep it at home, saving storage $, a rear bed, and a lot of storage space.

What fit that was Winnebago, Fleetwood and a few others, what I found mostly was Jamboree / Tioga 26Q. In the year models 2002 thru 2006. I did my home work looking at NADA and other sites to find the fair prices for the models that I was looking for.

After several months of searching the internet, Craigslist, private ads and Dealerships for a Class C that suited my budget and needs, this is what I found. Of the dozen or so I inquired about.Most were upsidedown in their payments, owing more than they were worth. All were on Ford Chassis, 7 needed tires, all had the original 7 to 10 year old tires, and they all needed repair of the awning and most needed some work inside or out and the maintenance records were sketchy, but most had low mileage. The Dealerships offerings were better but they had a profit margin to maintain so I got older models within my budget or huge up sales that didnโ€™t work for me.

My next step was looking at the rental market for sales. In my area there are 2 large companies that have rental sales, Cruise America and El Monte RV,who also sell Class A RVs.

First up was El Monte RV Their units are production RVs that are made by major manufactures, with TV antennas and hookups inside and out, Ducted A/C and heat, 2 house batteries, a rear ladder and parts are readily available from those manufactureโ€™s. I looked at their web site and it detailed their warranty and what was checked and serviced by their factory trained technicians. The unit I looked at was like new inside, the upholstery on all the seats was new as was the floor mat in the driverโ€™s area, it had a new mattress, still in plastic and a new bedspread. All of the curtains were new also. Newer (2010 mfg date) tires with 98% rubber and the mileage was ninety thousand (90,000).

Then there was Cruise America: Their units that I looked at seemed to be Spartan,no TV antenna or hookups for one,non-ducted A/C,small counter space and only one battery, no rear ladder for inspection and maintenance of roof and built just for them, they were all โ€œrefreshedโ€ their words not mine. They offered extended warranties at a huge cost. All had high mileage, one hundred and thirty thousand (130,000) or more and the price range seemed a little high. The sales staff had a take it or leave it attitude and were not very forthcoming when asked about maintenance records and service,they claim to have proprietary info in those records,It doesn't seem to be a problem for El Monte RV.

At El Monte RV I took a test ride; This Unit was a 2006 Tioga 26Q on a Chevrolet Chassis it rode
Drove and handled much better than the Fords that I had driven. It also had more leg room and was quieter. We got back and I asked about the service and maintenance on it, the salesman, Joey, handed me a 28 page single spaced document asked if I wanted some coffee or something to drink and said โ€œread this and if you have any questions I will answer themโ€.

It detailed everything that was done before and after each rental, the mileage, generator hours and hours billed. Each time it was washed and detailed inside and outside, all fluids were checked and replenished if needed, the holding tanks were washed, LP system was checked for leaks, all torque on wheel lugs were checked, brakes front and rear checked for wear and cracks, pressure in tires, all appliances, generator oil, lights inside and outside, the list goes on and on.

It also listed all oil changes,coolant change,trans service,fuel injector service and cleaning,fuel filters,air filter, new brakes, all repairs and replacements all with date, mileage and time spent in complete detail from day one to when it was pulled from the rental fleet and was refurbished. I have a complete service record on this vehicle.Also the service records on the Onan Generator,all oil changes,air filter and spark plug replacement with hours and date. I negotiated a good deal with them and am very happy with my purchase.

It came with a 1 yr. 12000 mile power train warranty and 30 day on all appliances. It also came with a 28 page maintenance record that detailed everything. Also the original sales packet from Fleetwood with the manual and serial numbers on all appliances,refrigerator, microwave,furnace, AC, water heater, etc. and the manual for the Chassis. I have had no problems with it so far.

(ON EDIT) 5 Years and close to 14000 miles.Just Scheduled Maintenance and new tires,old ones were at the 5 year mark and I wanted new Michelin LTX M/S2s.

There were a few things that it didnโ€™t have as it was a rental and the ones from private parties did have.
โ€ข Power steps, outside Stereo/CD donโ€™t need or want them.
โ€ข An Awning, this I wanted and had installed. A Swivel Seat and a new Window in The Door that I installed.
โ€ข Wheel Simulators, I like the looks so I had them installed and at the same time had Tire Man valve stem kit put on.
โ€ข Replaced the Chinese WFCO with a US Made converter/charger
โ€ข It came with mini blinds and not the day/night that most have, these are more practical and have a lot less failure.
  • It also came with Stainless Steel sinks,easier to maintain than the cheap plastic ones that come in the noncommercial units.

I am very happy with my Rig, it suites my needs and it was in my Budget range, I think I got a good deal.

So if you bought a rental please share your experience here for others to use as a resource.
Or if there are any other questions that have not been covered in these pages, just ask, there are many helpful people on this thread.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C
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IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
Welcome ArcticRam to the Former Rental Club your membership is duly noted you are #71

Thanks for the pictures,it's really nice to see members RVs.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

ArcticRam
Explorer
Explorer
Add us to the rental list too. We just purchased a 2014 Winnebago Chalet 24V last weekend. The local rental company we bought from takes really good care of their units. It's a little shorter than what we were hoping for, but it fits in the driveway and it'll fit us just fine. Can't wait to use it.
2018 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD 6.0L
2018 Nash 26N

stargirl96
Explorer
Explorer
Sometimes you don't know it was a rental. We bought a unit from a RV dealer after the salesman said quite sincerely the unit was a trade-in and not a rental. I think it was a trade-in but the previous owner must have bought it as a rental. When we were washing it, we saw the shadow of numbers on the cab overhang. It was only visible at a certain time of the day. Have only been able to see the numbers twice--the paint job was that good. I suspected it was a rental before we saw it because the mileage was higher than most 2007 models (48,000). The lure of a good price sucked us in and I put aside my gut feelings. Fortunately the unit has given us few problems. We bought it in September 2014.

Mich_F
Explorer
Explorer
71chevelle wrote:
Back from camping for a week and the coach did great! The tow/haul function worked great on the steep grades. Couldn't be happier. I do have a question on storing this thing. It's on my side yard and I have it plugged in and I'm wondering should I keep the refrigerator on or off and open? What's worse starting/stopping it or keeping it running??

There is no right or wrong as far as plugging in the frig. If you do keep it plugged in, make sure the RV is level or you'll screw up the frig. Also make sure you check your battery occasionally. Chances are you don't have a smart charger/convertor and could mess up your battery.
2014 Itasca Spirit 31K Class C
2016 Mazda CX5 on Acme tow dolly- 4 trips ~ 5,800 mi
Now 2017 RWD F150 with a drive shaft disconnect

71chevelle
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Explorer
Back from camping for a week and the coach did great! The tow/haul function worked great on the steep grades. Couldn't be happier. I do have a question on storing this thing. It's on my side yard and I have it plugged in and I'm wondering should I keep the refrigerator on or off and open? What's worse starting/stopping it or keeping it running??

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
zachcycles,thanks for stopping by and telling us how pleased you are with your Former Rental after a full year,another happy owner! BTW you are #43 on the list.

Thanks for the picture.

The list of owners has grown a lot in the last year.

Like to welcome Claybe to the Club #69

Also TexasNative who has brought the number up to #70

So far,a lot of happy owners out there.:B
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

zachcycles
Explorer
Explorer
Well it has been one year since purchasing my exrental Freedom Elite from Camping World. At the time CW had just gotten out of the rental business and was dumping their fleet. I wasn't even really in the market but when I ran across this one there was little question. Admittedly intimidated by the word rental, but after close inspection the 2014 26T came home with me!

Have had zero problems and many great trips... spent hours and hours on making my 'fort' mine and could not be happier!!

Whether out in the motor home or just sittin n sippin a fine whiskey, my mind wanders these daze. I'm ok with this...

TexasNative
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Explorer
Add me to the list. Newby RVer, bought 2011 FW Tioga Ranger 25g /e450/v10 from El Monte in Texas.

I have been using forums such as this to educate myself on this new hobby. Lots to learn but has been fun so far.

Thanks for the info so far!

path1
Explorer
Explorer
Claybe wrote:
I have the one mounted on the E350 chassis. Don't know the model number off the top of my head.


OK thanks. We have different models. Was hoping to exchange info with somebody that had same model. Thanks again and enjoy your trip.
2003 Majestic 23P... Northwest travel machine
2013 Arctic Fox 25W... Wife "doll house" for longer snowbird trips
2001 "The Mighty Dodge"... tow vehicle for "doll house"

Claybe
Explorer
Explorer
I have the one mounted on the E350 chassis. Don't know the model number off the top of my head.

path1
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Explorer
Claybe wrote:
I just found this thread and am glad to know that there are others out there! I bought a former rental from a couple who had purchased it in AZ. It had 120k on it when I bought it and had been sitting for about 6 months in RV storage. It was fairly well maintained and in pretty good condition. I have had it for 6 years now and have not had any problems. We are leaving soon on our biggest trip yet and hope everything goes well! I rationalized buying a rental knowing that all maintenance was done and all fluids were always changed and that they went through it with a fine tooth comb before selling to the public. Basically it was more well maintained than I would have maintained it! I have the Majestic 25 foot RV with the Triton 5.4 liter former Cruise America rental.


Do you have the 23P model? Mounted on F-350 not e-350.
2003 Majestic 23P... Northwest travel machine
2013 Arctic Fox 25W... Wife "doll house" for longer snowbird trips
2001 "The Mighty Dodge"... tow vehicle for "doll house"

Claybe
Explorer
Explorer
I just found this thread and am glad to know that there are others out there! I bought a former rental from a couple who had purchased it in AZ. It had 120k on it when I bought it and had been sitting for about 6 months in RV storage. It was fairly well maintained and in pretty good condition. I have had it for 6 years now and have not had any problems. We are leaving soon on our biggest trip yet and hope everything goes well! I rationalized buying a rental knowing that all maintenance was done and all fluids were always changed and that they went through it with a fine tooth comb before selling to the public. Basically it was more well maintained than I would have maintained it! I have the Majestic 25 foot RV with the Triton 5.4 liter former Cruise America rental.

IAMICHABOD
Explorer II
Explorer II
Welcome 71chevelle to the Former Rental Club,you are now on the list.
#68

It is good to hear that you bought from El Monte RV, I understand that they are nice folks there,I see that your experience with them was a positive one.

Please come back to tell us all how you like owning a Former Rental and anything that might help others that are looking to do the same.
2006 TIOGA 26Q CHEVY 6.0 WORKHORSE VORTEC
Former El Monte RV Rental
Retired Teamster Local 692
Buying A Rental Class C

71chevelle
Explorer
Explorer
Hello, great thread and the reason for my purchase of a 2009 Ranger 25G with 125,000 miles on it today. I bought it from El Monte in Dublin Ca. The salesman was great to deal with and the few small things I found were fixed no problem. We financed it through one of the banks they deal with and had competitive rates and terms.
I got the maintenance records and they were extensive and one of the main reasons for going for it. I can't get the tv to turn on with the antenna so I'm not sure what the deal is there but I'm going to Mendocino next week for a week of abalone diving and fishing so I'll get a chance to really check this baby out. I'll check back in after and share how she did.

Perick
Explorer
Explorer
coolmom42 wrote:
Financing at El Monte RV--has anyone done it?

Just wondering what type of experience it is. Was the rate competitive? Does ElMonte hold the note, or is it through a bank or finance company?

My budget is $30K for the motor home, plus another $10K for taxes, upgrades, etc. I will have about half of that at the time of purchase, but would like to spread out the second half over a year. This would give me more flexibility in my IRA withdrawals and possibly help me stay in a lower tax bracket.

It would probably be simpler to finance at El Monte than get money wired from a lender. I have top-tier credit and don't anticipate any problems getting a loan, just trying to keep things simple.

I plan to buy in the fall of 2017. Probably will buy from the Orlando or Las Vegas location. I'm looking at the smaller motor homes like the Winnebago 24V.


We financed with El Monte in Texas... they work with credit unions and banks just like a car dealership would. No issues, you'll just have to scan/fax them some documents but they're good about explaining what they need. The rates were fine and they'll go about as many months as you'd want on the loan.