Mocoondo wrote:
path1 wrote:
I agree with Mocoondo on 99.999 things he says. He is one of the best resources on here. But if me I would change every fluid you have. You have no idea if someone took the rear diff for a swim or if some renter added whatever to trans.
Opinion -- Take it for whatever it's worth -- The odds of an average renter servicing a transmission with anything at all is as close to nil as you can get. They just don't go anywhere near it. After the first trans service, it becomes real iffy whether there is any added benefit servicing it again. Most trans guys that I know insist that if you have managed to take a trans over 100K miles, to just leave it alone beyond that and only take action if you notice changes to the trans fluid either color, clarity or odor. This has generally been my practice, even in my personal automobiles, and I have never lost a trans due to lack of maintenance. Also, trans problems won't fix themselves with a fluid change. If you see changes to fluid color or odor, it means your trans is wearing excessively and you will soon be in rebuild/replace territory. Some mechanics that I know flat out refuse to do a trans flush on a higher mile trans because they insist that the odds of losing a transmission after a flush go way up.
Take the advice for the value paid, but with these Ford transmissions, once they hit 100K, they get a full service and that is the last time they ever get opened until it gets replaced. And for the record, I have run these things for millions of miles and had a failure of exactly one Ford transmission and it had nothing to do with maintenance. It was a 6,000 mile transmission that suffered a catastrophic failure. No amount of maintenance could have prevented that.
My opinion...OK, Agree to disagree on this one. I'm not paying shop rates to do my maintenance, so the question of "will we get our money back" doesn't come into play. But I get idea.
Copied here is 150,000 miles service Normal Schedule, see below for Special Operating Conditions.
Cars, Minivans, Light Trucks, Sport Utilities, Vans, 4x4, Natural Gas, Propane, and Diesel Vehicles
Change engine oil and replace oil filter
Inspect brake pads/shoes/rotors/drums, brake lines & hoses, and parking brake system
Inspect wheel ends for endplay and noise
Inspect engine cooling system and hoses
Change Premium Gold coolant (see exceptions page 34 and record page 48)
Inspect exhaust system and heat shields
Inspect steering linkage, suspension and, if equipped, driveshaft and ball joints
Inspect tires for wear and rotate
Replace engine air filter (except PZEV Focus see below)
Check air filter minder, replace filter as required (Focus PZEV engine)
Replace fuel filter*
Replace cabin air filter, if equipped
Change automatic transmission/transaxle fluid and filter Change rear axle lubricant on all rear wheel drive (RWD) vehicles (see page 35-36)
Replace accessory drive belt(s) (if not replaced within last 100,000 miles)
Replace climate-controlled seat filters (Navigator, Aviator, and LS if equipped)
Additional services for: Light Trucks, Sport Utilities, and Vans
Inspect and lubricate 4X2 ball joints (except F-450/F-550)
Replace 4X2 wheel bearings and grease seals, lubricate and adjust bearings
Inspect and lubricate steering linkage (E and F series, Excursion)
*If vehicle is registered in California, the California Air Resources Board has determined that the failure to perform this maintenance item will not nullify the emission warranty or limit recall liability prior to the completion of the vehicle’s useful life. We, however, urge that all recommended maintenance services be performed at the indicated intervals and the maintenance be recorded.
Special Operating ConditionsTowing a trailer or using a camper or car-top carrier, Extensive idling and/or low-speed driving for long distances as in heavy commercial use such as delivery, taxi, patrol car or livery, Operating in dusty conditions such as unpaved or dusty roads
Every 3,000 miles or 3 months Change engine oil and replace oil filter
Every 30,000 miles Change automatic transmission fluidLubricate 4X4 front hub needle bearings (F Super Duty)
Every 60,000 miles Change transfer case fluid
Change rear axle fluid if equipped with XY-75W90-FEHP
As required Change manual transmission fluid
As required Inspect and lubricate U-joints
