Electrical Block Diagram?

[SCADAMAN29325]

I'm trying to find a good electrical diagram for my 1994 Jamboree Rallye, but with no luck, so any good block diagram might be helpful.

I've been trying to find one that fits my needs, but the ones I've found are not close enough.

Thanks, Phil

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LOL! I was just getting ready to post a question on doing a leak down test on the LP gas system. If there are no more problems, I'll create a few to keep me busy...

THANKS!

[enblethen]

Sounds good!
And the next problem is?

[SCADAMAN29325]

We have the POWER!

There was no ground at the valve, just a single wire running back to the detector. It was using the chassis as the ground.

I used a 10-32 nut (Another trip to the hardwsre store) and, flat and split ring washers to secure the new ground wire to the buss bar. I used the coach's hot wire. Labeled the left the left over wiring. Also placed a note explaining the franken-wiring. 😉




Thanks very much for the help!

[enblethen]

What I did was to splice the two wires where the solenoid was. If no other true battery ground, it will work. Connecting to wire terminal block if it is battery ground and close would be best!
Use the red wire from the coach battery for feed to detector. Insulate the other wire.

[SCADAMAN29325]

One red wire measured 13.4v to ground, gen/coach battery.
The other red wire measured 13.0 to ground, van/chassis battery.
Yellow measured in the millivolts, not connected, was for LP Gas cut-off.
Need to get a ground wire for new gas detector. Will be using power center "return buss bar" and gen/chassis battery for the hot wire.

[SCADAMAN29325]

Ahhh, old detector.

[SCADAMAN29325]

Fixed(?) the water pump problem. Because "I don't have a clue what I'm doing, but I'm having a good time doing it"! I would bet that you knew that the pump is on a 3-way switch, one at the door and another in the bath. I didn't know that till about 2 seconds ago. Jeez!

As for the gas detector, getting to that fuse box under the hood is dang near impossible! There's a solid metal cooling conduit laying almost right on top of it.

I spent the afternoon turning ac circuit breakers on/off and pulling the coach fuses to see what they affected.


Here are my notes on that:

Tracing breakers Left to right 1 - 3
#1 green 30a main breaker(?), found no ac anywhere.
#2 red 20a both sides living area and TV outlet
#3 red 20a toaster oven and sink
#4 blue 15a bath and bedroom cabinet TV
(#4 also causes buzzing from power center)
(Could be battery charger)
#5 blue 15a microwave
Air Conditioner?

Tracing fuses. Left to right 1 - 9
#1 15a living area lights
#2 15a hall light and both kitchen and bath vent fans
#3 15a stove light/fan and bed lights
#4 15a ??? not water pump.
#5 5a ??? not water pump.
#6 5a ??? not water pump
#7 15a ??? not water pump
#8 15a water pump
#9 20a ???
Missed checking porch light.
So what are 4,5,6,7 & 9?
Need to check furnace and water heater sources.

[enblethen]

The old detector CCI had two power sources. One from the coach battery and one from the chassis. Good chance you blew the fuse from the chassis battery system. That fuse would be under the hood.
You should be connecting to the coach battery system.
The Pangaea does indicate having a solenoid output. The red wire would be power and the other wire from detector would need to go to ground.
I am guessing on Pangaea as no wiring diagram is shown.

[SCADAMAN29325]

I've checked the DC distribution panel, those fuses are all good. Switched grounds are a pain!

Old detector was a CCI Controls 7719. I have removed that valve when trying to get gas to the stove. New detector is a Pangaea PRG1000A.

The old detector had a yellow and 2 reds coming out of it.
Those were spliced yel to yel, red to red and red to gray going into the floor.

The red and gray may have touched. I didn't see a spark but may have missed it.

Red to gray measures 0.5v
Yes to red and yel to gray measure about 40mv.

To finish tracing the red/gray wires through the underside and forward I will need jack up the driver front tire and then maybe remove the wheel for better access, but I bet it disappears into wrapped bundle.

Thanks!

[enblethen]

OP: you said you changed out the LP detector. What was make and model of old and what is the make and model of new?
Many Fleetwood's in your vintage had a solenoid mounted adjacent to LP tank shut-off. It would shut off propane if the LP alarm operates. The original solenoid was wired in series with the detector power. New models this solenoid needed to be replaced and wired in differently. The solenoid power comes from a detector output and ground.

[enblethen]

It sounds a little like you lost the coach battery ground.
Items listed should be powered through the converter 12-volt DC distribution panel. Fuses are behind a metal plate next to the 120-volt circuit breakers held in place by thumb screw.
Under the hood is a relay for the battery disconnect. It is possible that it is not operating properly.
Many Fleetwood products pump is using ground for switching.

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Love Harbor Freight! Thanks. I used a phone charger to make sure all the recepticles worked. I'll do that again to find which breakers control what.

Everything was fine when I made this post, but now I have problems.

I was testing gen with the AC running, turned off the AC, shut down the gen, switched back to 115 from the house. A little while later at the coach control panel everything read full bars: all wet tanks, batteries, LP Gas... the other day they were all working correctly: tanks empty, LP Gas at 3/4. I don't know if the gen testing caused an issue with the control panel.

Yesterday I was replacing the LP Gas alarm, a wire slipped, touched ground and must have popped a fuse. I started chasing those wires down hand-over-hand through the floor, across the under belly and towards the engine compartment where I lost them. Tomorrow I'll pull all the fuses I can get to in the cab and a few other inline fuses. Those fuses in the engine compartment are unaccessable. (Why did they put that fuse box right under the master cylinder?)

This morning I noticed the water pump running. I checked that all the switches were off, so I disconnected the pump.

Tomorrow will be a full day running down those problems.

Sometimes I am my own worst enemy.

[Grit_dog]

Looks all nice and neat. Is there things not working or just curious?

[enblethen]

These Plug-in tester work good for identifying 120-volt circuits. Plug into receptacle then switch off breakers until the one that supplies power turns it off.