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Ford V10 gas mileage

swb7
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This has probably been discussed before. Have a 2000 Minnie (24') & get 7.5MPG (Canadian gallons); is this normal. Have only had it a couple of months.
Thanks
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2001_Ford_E450
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Mine is a 29 footer. I do not tow and get 8-9 mpg (US) using 87 octane fuel. I have not noticed a difference using fuel with Ethenol added.I tend to not exceed 65 mph.

tpi
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It would seem ideally that elevation rise and fall would not hurt fuel economy, or even could increase it. It would be similar to pulse and glide-a technique used in "hypermiling" to get good fuel economy.

Try as I may in the real world I haven't seen any gains from climbing a mountain and coasting down the other side. At best little or no loss.

In most cases this could be due to cornering and braking on winding roads. Also downshifting to minimize transmission hunting, or to retard speed.

My E450 doesn't appear to shut off fuel entirely at coast. I've had cars that did do this. One other element is the downshift to climb a hill increases engine speed and loss due to engine friction. Some engines also go into an fuel enrichment scheme at heavy throttle (it appears that at least some stock V10s do not).

I too am pleased with the performance and economy of the V10. These rigs are not aerodynamically sweet. Like others, I keep it at 55-60 and it will get 10 mpg under steady state cruise.






pnichols wrote:
I've always wondered why general mountain driving, properly done, should reduce fuel mileage very much.

Isn't the extra fuel one burns "going up" supposed to be close to exactly compensated for by the reduction in fuel burned when "coming down"??

As a supporting fact, I believe that modern (gasoline) engine computer control sytems shut off the injectors completely when you let up on the gas pedal ... so that when going down hills you're not even supplying any gas to keep the engine in an "idle state".

(This is ignoring loss of efficiency with increasing altitude when you're "going up". That's why I used the wording "close to exactly compensated" above, instead of "exactly compensated".)

cmalberto
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I consider myself still a newbie. Had to take my rig over the other side of Houston today. First time I have run complete interstate as opposed to back road, 2lane rough roads. I have a Scangauge hooked up to monitor my real time mileage. Based on my first tank mileage, i was very displeased with myself - only averaging 6.2mpg. I learned quickly to slow down(65 or less)...getting better real time mpg equated to a better run at 7.6mpg on my last tank. Today I was averaging about 8.5 before filling up(last tank was split across trips). After filling up I got caught in slower Houston traffic - about 55ish...mpg was even better. In fact the average was 9.8 when I pulled into my dealer's parking lot about 50 miles down the road.

Some observations....smooth interstate roads perform better than the 2-lanes; finding an 18 wheeler to hide behind creates some interesting drafts - smooth and seems to pull you along....mpg increases here too.

And yes - I took have noticed my Scangauge goto 9999 when coasting with no throttle.
Mickey Alberto
2014 Coachmen Leprechaun 320BH

Rolin
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Hi Pnichols, On the Chev 8.1 liter based motorhome the gas does appear to be shut off to injectors when going downhill the scan gauge would read 99999 mpg. However on the Ford 6.8 liter engine my scan gauge reads 45 to 49 mpg going down hill...fuel does not appear to be shut off to the injectors. So mileage does suffer in mountain driving.

We get 9.0 to 9.3 mpg on long trips with a Ford E450 based Motorhome (26ft). This is based on mileage divided by fuel used .....not by the scan gauge numbers.

mikeleblanc413
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RE: 2000 Winnebago Minnie Winnie, 29.5 ft, V10

Don't keep as detailed records as some...over 10,000 miles throughout Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois and Iowa...I got between 10 and 10.5. On occasion I did get 11.5. Do not use cruse control, and never over 55. Do not see a difference between 50 and 55.
Mike LeBlanc
The Piney Woods Of East Texas
Lufkin, Texas

swb7
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After my 1600km (1000 miles) trip got 10.15 mpg going 55 to 60 mph so I will keep to that speed & be happy with it.
Thanks for all your comments

Harvard
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pnichols wrote:
I've always wondered why general mountain driving, properly done, should reduce fuel mileage very much.

Isn't the extra fuel one burns "going up" supposed to be close to exactly compensated for by the reduction in fuel burned when "coming down"??

As a supporting fact, I believe that modern (gasoline) engine computer control sytems shut off the injectors completely when you let up on the gas pedal ... so that when going down hills you're not even supplying any gas to keep the engine in an "idle state".

(This is ignoring loss of efficiency with increasing altitude when you're "going up". That's why I used the wording "close to exactly compensated" above, instead of "exactly compensated".)


Ah, but you probably spend more time going up (lower ground speed) then the time spent going down (higher ground speed). :B

pnichols
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I've always wondered why general mountain driving, properly done, should reduce fuel mileage very much.

Isn't the extra fuel one burns "going up" supposed to be close to exactly compensated for by the reduction in fuel burned when "coming down"??

As a supporting fact, I believe that modern (gasoline) engine computer control sytems shut off the injectors completely when you let up on the gas pedal ... so that when going down hills you're not even supplying any gas to keep the engine in an "idle state".

(This is ignoring loss of efficiency with increasing altitude when you're "going up". That's why I used the wording "close to exactly compensated" above, instead of "exactly compensated".)
2005 E450 Itasca 24V Class C

2dogtravellin
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We have a 21 ft class C, with an E-350 engine. We get @ 8 mpg. But we live in, and tend to travel in the mountains and we both have lead feet. (I suspect we could do a lot better if we slowed it down from 70mph to 60.)

pnichols
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FWIW, I've been cruising at around 55-57 MPH for years in our 24 foot E450 ... never over 60 MPH.

The V10 just loafs along at these speeds in OD, even with the 4.56:1 differential, and we can't hear it under the doghouse. It holds it's own in the High Sierras, too, right along with all the diesel rigs - both commercial big rigs and towable RVs. I think the E450 does so well pulling at high altitudes because of it's agressive differential ratio combined with the V10's high RPM limit, whichs allows you to rev it up as needed to add horsepower. We idle it a fair amount and it idles with only a muffled swishing sound outside and with absolutely no floor vibration on the inside.

We also are very pleased with the V10. Ford got it right with this truck engine.
2005 E450 Itasca 24V Class C

rockhillmanor
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pnichols wrote:
The gas mileage "sweetspot" speed for V10 powered Class C motorhomes - if there is one - probably depends partially upon whether they're using an E350 chassis or an E450 chassis.

The two chassis have different rear differential gear ratios, with the E450 ratio being about 4.56:1, and the E350 being about 4.12:1.


when I first got my MH it rode so well I 'd look down and I'd be going 75+ without even knowing it. Didn't get great gas mileage either.

Then I drove thru a pretty long stretch of area where you 'had' to do 55 if you were an RV. Couldn't believe my mileage jumped to 12mpg!

So that and the fact that I now full time and don't 'need' to speed to my destination I tried keeping it at 55 all the time. And yup 11 to 12mpg. I have the E450 chassis.

Try it sometime for a day's worth of driving I did and it does work. I am still VERY pleased with my V-10 31ft performance and towing ability! :C

We must be willing to get rid of the life we've planned,
so as to have the life that is waiting for us.

noe-place
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gotsmart wrote:
noe-place wrote:
With mine I have a 55 gallon tank. I keep it around 62 MPH or under and get around 7-9 or so.

X2 sounds about right. The best I've got was 9.1 mpg - includes pulling the toad.


I'll do that well IF I keep a very LIGHT foot. :B

pnichols
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The gas mileage "sweetspot" speed for V10 powered Class C motorhomes - if there is one - probably depends partially upon whether they're using an E350 chassis or an E450 chassis.

The two chassis have different rear differential gear ratios, with the E450 ratio being about 4.56:1, and the E350 being about 4.12:1.
2005 E450 Itasca 24V Class C

tim426
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I have a 1999 32' I get 6.5 us.