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Motorhome rollover in Iowa

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Ark235B
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Most of you all need to get a life....seriously.
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Mr.Mark wrote:
I would be leery of a 19 yr. old male or female driving a motorhome with a trailer. I mean really, how much experience does one have when having a driver's license for only 2 yrs.?

Safe travels,
MM.


Obviously not enough!

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Mr_Mark1
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I would be leery of a 19 yr. old male or female driving a motorhome with a trailer. I mean really, how much experience does one have when having a driver's license for only 2 yrs.?

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MM.
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Doesnยดt matter if it was a Christian band or not. The reporter should have omitted that.

I am assuming that the trailer was being towed by the motorhome. Iยดm glad that they are alive but wonder what their setup was and it that was responsible for the accident? A driver without enough experience?
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dewey02 wrote:
CraneMan wrote:
Christian Rock band but no one will admit to being the driver...


Really?
Instead of being thankful that none of the occupants have life-threatening injuries, you decide to take a potshot at them because they are a Christian band?

Do you know the nature of the situation?
Do you know that it was the fault of the driver?


I little touchy there aren't we when it comes to religion?

Personally,, I'll bet the Amish electric guitar player was driving and he was texting.

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msmith1199 wrote:
You do realize that was my first comments about the incident and it was simply pointing out there was nobody trying to hide the identity of the driver?


And I hope you realize I only commented to you once in reply to your post. I apologise for you appearing in my following posts. I was simply quoting the posts I was replying to.
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msmith1199
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You do realize that was my first comments about the incident and it was simply pointing out there was nobody trying to hide the identity of the driver?

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CraneMan
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dewey02 wrote:
CraneMan wrote:
msmith1199 wrote:
Google is your friend. From another news article about the accident, there was no lying about who the driver was, only typical media games:

"According to the Iowa State Patrol, 19-year-old Viviana Elise-Alaniz Garcia of Lincoln Park, Michigan was driving a 1999 Coachmen RV westbound on I-80 between the Walnut and Avoca exits. Authorities say Garcia lost control, causing the vehicle to roll on the driver's side. The RV came to rest partially in the median and partially in the left lane.

Garcia and three of her passengers -- 25-year-old Jonathon Lee Moriconi of East China, Michigan, 21-year-old Nathan Paul Barringer of Livonia, Michigan, and 26-year-old Sean Joseph Mueller of Fair Haven, Michigan -- were all taken to Myrtue Memorial Hospital in Harlan by various rescue units with undisclosed injuries."


I'm not as interested as you. I read the linked article and made a statement as to the humor in the situation. Please continue if you must get in te final word. But as far as caring, I was done with the story with my first post. It's now all about you being "right" and winning an argument that you are having with yourself. See above, I don't care enough to "get to the bottom of it" but please, enjoy...


Really - a very serious rollover with people going to the hospital and you see humor in the situation. Both sad and pathetic.


Pathetic? Do you care about them? Friends? Family? Probably not. You only care about browbeating someone. The world is full of tragedies but you can't let up henpecking me about an accident involving strangers in the middle of nowhere with only minor injuries. Pathetic? Why yes, yes you are.
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dewey02
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CraneMan wrote:
msmith1199 wrote:
Google is your friend. From another news article about the accident, there was no lying about who the driver was, only typical media games:

"According to the Iowa State Patrol, 19-year-old Viviana Elise-Alaniz Garcia of Lincoln Park, Michigan was driving a 1999 Coachmen RV westbound on I-80 between the Walnut and Avoca exits. Authorities say Garcia lost control, causing the vehicle to roll on the driver's side. The RV came to rest partially in the median and partially in the left lane.

Garcia and three of her passengers -- 25-year-old Jonathon Lee Moriconi of East China, Michigan, 21-year-old Nathan Paul Barringer of Livonia, Michigan, and 26-year-old Sean Joseph Mueller of Fair Haven, Michigan -- were all taken to Myrtue Memorial Hospital in Harlan by various rescue units with undisclosed injuries."


I'm not as interested as you. I read the linked article and made a statement as to the humor in the situation. Please continue if you must get in te final word. But as far as caring, I was done with the story with my first post. It's now all about you being "right" and winning an argument that you are having with yourself. See above, I don't care enough to "get to the bottom of it" but please, enjoy...


Really - a very serious rollover with people going to the hospital and you see humor in the situation. Both sad and pathetic.

CraneMan
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msmith1199 wrote:
Google is your friend. From another news article about the accident, there was no lying about who the driver was, only typical media games:

"According to the Iowa State Patrol, 19-year-old Viviana Elise-Alaniz Garcia of Lincoln Park, Michigan was driving a 1999 Coachmen RV westbound on I-80 between the Walnut and Avoca exits. Authorities say Garcia lost control, causing the vehicle to roll on the driver's side. The RV came to rest partially in the median and partially in the left lane.

Garcia and three of her passengers -- 25-year-old Jonathon Lee Moriconi of East China, Michigan, 21-year-old Nathan Paul Barringer of Livonia, Michigan, and 26-year-old Sean Joseph Mueller of Fair Haven, Michigan -- were all taken to Myrtue Memorial Hospital in Harlan by various rescue units with undisclosed injuries."


I'm not as interested as you. I read the linked article and made a statement as to the humor in the situation. Please continue if you must get in the final word. But in so far as caring, I was done with the story with my first post. It's been all about your being "right" and winning an argument that you are having with yourself. See above, I don't care enough to "get to the bottom of it" but please, enjoy...
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msmith1199
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Google is your friend. From another news article about the accident, there was no lying about who the driver was, only typical media games:

"According to the Iowa State Patrol, 19-year-old Viviana Elise-Alaniz Garcia of Lincoln Park, Michigan was driving a 1999 Coachmen RV westbound on I-80 between the Walnut and Avoca exits. Authorities say Garcia lost control, causing the vehicle to roll on the driver's side. The RV came to rest partially in the median and partially in the left lane.

Garcia and three of her passengers -- 25-year-old Jonathon Lee Moriconi of East China, Michigan, 21-year-old Nathan Paul Barringer of Livonia, Michigan, and 26-year-old Sean Joseph Mueller of Fair Haven, Michigan -- were all taken to Myrtue Memorial Hospital in Harlan by various rescue units with undisclosed injuries."

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msmith1199
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CraneMan wrote:
DownTheAvenue wrote:
CraneMan wrote:
Christian Rock band but no one will admit to being the driver...


That is not what the article said. It mentioned that one band member was asleep in his bunk when the wreck occurred and did not know who was driving. That is significantly different that what you have alleged.


Gottschalk said he was asleep in his bunk when the motor home crashed. He does not know who was driving.

Authorities are working to identify who the driver and are investigating other details pertaining to the wreck.


I guess you missed this part. "Authorities are working to identify who was driving" Didn't bother to read the entire article I see.

At the time the article was written, which I have to assume was quite some time after the accident, they had not as yet ascertained who was driving. Therefore, I stand with my original inference and believe you need to read articles in their entirety before assuming someone else didn't


No, at the time the article was written the reporter did not know who the driver was. Odds are the authorities knew exactly who it was and as typical are not telling the media any details like that until the investigation is complete.

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CraneMan
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dewey02 wrote:
CraneMan wrote:
Christian Rock band but no one will admit to being the driver...


Really?
Instead of being thankful that none of the occupants have life-threatening injuries, you decide to take a potshot at them because they are a Christian band?

Do you know the nature of the situation?
Do you know that it was the fault of the driver?


Do you not see the irony in the situation? Too busy being a busybody? Yeah, I think so. Nothing you posted is pertinent to my statement.
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CraneMan
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DownTheAvenue wrote:
CraneMan wrote:
Christian Rock band but no one will admit to being the driver...


That is not what the article said. It mentioned that one band member was asleep in his bunk when the wreck occurred and did not know who was driving. That is significantly different that what you have alleged.


Gottschalk said he was asleep in his bunk when the motor home crashed. He does not know who was driving.

Authorities are working to identify who the driver and are investigating other details pertaining to the wreck.


I guess you missed this part. "Authorities are working to identify who was driving" Didn't bother to read the entire article I see.

At the time the article was written, which I have to assume was quite some time after the accident, they had not as yet ascertained who was driving. Therefore, I stand with my original inference and believe you need to read articles in their entirety before assuming someone else didn't
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