I'm looking at a 2007 Newmar with an ISL engine. I called Spartan and Cummins and found that the engine has an open recall (campaign - C0713). The recall is for possible defective piston wrist pin....the recall pretty much just installs an early warning system. Looks like this recall affects 2005-2007 motorhomes with ISL engines. From what I've read online, it seems the failure rate is around 3% with most saying it will either happen early or not at all. The coach I'm looking at has over 60k miles. Should I be concerned or just get the coach and have the recall completed?

There hasn't been any postings about wrist pin failure on the boards I read. You know if there was a failure, it would be posted on every rv board there is. It would not bother me to but that coach

Buy with the price discounted at the cost of a used replacement engine.The wrist pin issue hasn't been a problem very, few engine have a failure.

dons2346 wrote:There hasn't been any postings about wrist pin failure on the boards I read. You know if there was a failure, it would be posted on every rv board there is. It would not bother me to but that coachThere have definitely been a few failures as I found them during my Google search. That said, it seems most were 9-10 years ago. Reading about any problem on the internet makes it seem 1000x's worse than it might be. It's like Googling, "Chest Pain".......after 5 minutes of reading you will be sure you are dying.I'm hoping the higher mileage of this coach means it is in the clear. I'm also hopeful that if something catastrophic did happen, Cummins would step up to cover the damage.

My opinion is if it was going to fail it certainly would have by now. In 2007 we bought a '08 Newmar with a '06 spec ISL in it. I don't think ours was part of the recall, either way, it's been fine. I wouldn't worry about it, even a little.

It would have failed by now. I would no hesitate to buy.

Should a Cummins ISL recall campaign scare me from buying?

dons2346
Explorer
Jun 01, 2018
There hasn't been any postings about wrist pin failure on the boards I read. You know if there was a failure, it would be posted on every rv board there is. It would not bother me to but that coach
Tom_Barb
Explorer
Jun 01, 2018
Buy with the price discounted at the cost of a used replacement engine.

The wrist pin issue hasn't been a problem very, few engine have a failure.
dgreen1069
Explorer
Jun 01, 2018
dons2346 wrote:
There hasn't been any postings about wrist pin failure on the boards I read. You know if there was a failure, it would be posted on every rv board there is. It would not bother me to but that coach

There have definitely been a few failures as I found them during my Google search. That said, it seems most were 9-10 years ago.

Reading about any problem on the internet makes it seem 1000x's worse than it might be. It's like Googling, "Chest Pain".......after 5 minutes of reading you will be sure you are dying.

I'm hoping the higher mileage of this coach means it is in the clear. I'm also hopeful that if something catastrophic did happen, Cummins would step up to cover the damage.
Bruce_Brown
Moderator
Jun 01, 2018
My opinion is if it was going to fail it certainly would have by now.

In 2007 we bought a '08 Newmar with a '06 spec ISL in it. I don't think ours was part of the recall, either way, it's been fine.

I wouldn't worry about it, even a little.
ScottG
Nomad
Jun 01, 2018
It would have failed by now.
I would no hesitate to buy.
blownstang01
Explorer
Jun 01, 2018
I agree with the others, probably would have happened by now. But, if it were me I actually would lean More towards buying it. I don't know the language or expiration on the recall you're talking about, but I wouldn't mind having a coach that if the engine fails because of this I get a new one from Cummins.
DownTheAvenue
Explorer
Jun 01, 2018
dgreen1069 wrote:
I'm also hopeful that if something catastrophic did happen, Cummins would step up to cover the damage.

It is nice to hope for great things, and I hope, too, that you would be so blessed. However, I can almost guarantee that will not happen!
BobR
Explorer
Jun 02, 2018
You did some due diligence - Why ignore it! Only way I would buy is to get the cost of a rebuild ($20,000) discounted off the already negotiated sale price.
smlranger
Explorer
Jun 02, 2018
BobR wrote:
You did some due diligence - Why ignore it! Only way I would buy is to get the cost of a rebuild ($20,000) discounted off the already negotiated sale price.

Agree with this. While I agree that most of these I read about that did fail, failed early and not later. However, things can still happen. I would not consider the coach if I could not get a discount equal to the price of a potential engine rebuild.
pusherpilot
Explorer
Jun 02, 2018
dons2346 wrote:
There hasn't been any postings about wrist pin failure on the boards I read. You know if there was a failure, it would be posted on every rv board there is. It would not bother me to but that coach

Look here. It's a sticky.

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f123/