Smaller Prevost
I spotted a smaller Prevost coach the other day,a very nice looking rig but looked to be only about 26 feet long..Couldn't find anything about them on the web..Lets see if this gets deleted like the other times I posed this inquiry!!
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frankdamp wrote:
One problem with a short Class A diesel would be the same as we experienced with the 30' transit coaches. Because of the relatively long overhangs on a short wheelbase, they tended to have a nasty pitching motion.
When driving city transit routes, this only affected the driver, but I think it would be a major issue on a short RV.
A few years back, we saw a 32' DP at a local dealership. At the time it was about 10 years old. We test drove it and that pitching was nauseating. In retrospect, it was as well that the seller was asking over twice NADA and wouldn't budge, otherwise we might have bought it!
This is too generalized of a statement. A lot of 30' MH's have different wheelbases and don't experience "porpoise-ing" I don't on mine. One thing for sure, I've seen quite a few of these brand new short buses so someone is buying them. We live in an area between Gettysburg and DC and tour busses galore on any given weekend day on Rt15. And recently I've seen quite a few of these. I'll try and capture the brand next time if I get close enough on the interstate. But they look like the ones from the link a few posts before.
I did a quick search for Temsa bus conversions and found a lot of info. The TS35 seems popular for conversions.MagillaGorilla wrote:
This is simply my humble opinion BUT I don't think there is much of a market for a short Prevost. It seems to me that the people that buy these not only want the best of the best but they want YOU to know they have the best of the best. Those same people are not likely to live in a 2 bedroom house even though there are only 2 of them living in it. Where is the status in that? They have big fancy houses, big fancy cars, big fancy jewelry and big fancy coaches.
Yes a smaller coach would be easier to handle and fit in more places but the same could be said for Taurus verses a Rolls Royce yet the people buying the Rolls are not going into any Ford dealers any time soon.
This is not to say they would not sell any of the smaller coaches, they might. But making a smaller, more affordable coach might alienate their existing customer base that love the exclusivity that they have.
You may be right that they would not a shorter coach as much of the benefit of the more expensive chassis is to be able to have a larger coach. I don't think you are correct generally about the desire to let us know they have an expensive coach. Prevost owners in my experience are not much different than any other RV'ers in my experience. It is one of the things I really like about traveling in an RV, it has a leveling affect in terms of status or wealth. I meet so many pleasant and helpful people.
Again this is just my $0.02- One problem with a short Class A diesel would be the same as we experienced with the 30' transit coaches. Because of the relatively long overhangs on a short wheelbase, they tended to have a nasty pitching motion.
When driving city transit routes, this only affected the driver, but I think it would be a major issue on a short RV.
A few years back, we saw a 32' DP at a local dealership. At the time it was about 10 years old. We test drove it and that pitching was nauseating. In retrospect, it was as well that the seller was asking over twice NADA and wouldn't budge, otherwise we might have bought it! Bruce Brown wrote:
bsinmich wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
I remember Newmar having a small but expensive small Class A. since it had a wet bath and a tiny refrigerator I can see why it didn't last long.
bumpy
That was around 1990 the Newstar was about 29' and an all electric coach. Slides weren't available then in that model. Newmar did slides first in early 90's
I'm thinking he's talking about the New Aire, which came out in 2001. And I also see why it didn't last long. That was always one of those "what the heck were they thinking" deals to me. I have read they drive like a dream, so good concept, bad execution?
Slides were first introduced in 1990, as you mentioned.
I think you are right about the new aire. went to a link and they only made 43 of them. :) $190,000. :s
bumpy- This is simply my humble opinion BUT I don't think there is much of a market for a short Prevost. It seems to me that the people that buy these not only want the best of the best but they want YOU to know they have the best of the best. Those same people are not likely to live in a 2 bedroom house even though there are only 2 of them living in it. Where is the status in that? They have big fancy houses, big fancy cars, big fancy jewelry and big fancy coaches.
Yes a smaller coach would be easier to handle and fit in more places but the same could be said for Taurus verses a Rolls Royce yet the people buying the Rolls are not going into any Ford dealers any time soon.
This is not to say they would not sell any of the smaller coaches, they might. But making a smaller, more affordable coach might alienate their existing customer base that love the exclusivity that they have.
Again this is just my $0.02 - Many transit bus manufacturers make their buses in modules. The front end (driver's station, entry, front wheels/suspension/steering) and back end (engine, transmission, rear wheels) are the same on all lengths, just the passenger compartment is different.When I drove transit, all our Gillig fleet (30ft to 40ft) were configured like that, though the bigger coaches had bigger engines.
Whether this applies to long-distance highway coaches, I'm not sure. bsinmich wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
I remember Newmar having a small but expensive small Class A. since it had a wet bath and a tiny refrigerator I can see why it didn't last long.
bumpy
That was around 1990 the Newstar was about 29' and an all electric coach. Slides weren't available then in that model. Newmar did slides first in early 90's
I'm thinking he's talking about the New Aire, which came out in 2001. And I also see why it didn't last long. That was always one of those "what the heck were they thinking" deals to me. I have read they drive like a dream, so good concept, bad execution?
Slides were first introduced in 1990, as you mentioned.Bumpyroad wrote:
I remember Newmar having a small but expensive small Class A. since it had a wet bath and a tiny refrigerator I can see why it didn't last long.
bumpy
That was around 1990 the Newstar was about 29' and an all electric coach. Slides weren't available then in that model. Newmar did slides first in early 90's- While the Prevost shells are similar, they are not exactly the same. The make a motorhome, seated bus and entertainer versions.
- Prevost building a smaller shell is not likely going to happen. The economics of retooling, as noted above, would likely be prohibitive. The Prevost shell that is "converted" to a coach RV is the same shell as is under the passenger bus. The RV conversion portion of the Prevost business would be dramatically smaller than the bus shells. Prevost is first and foremost a highway bus manufacturer, the RV business is ancillary thereto.
