I finally got everything put together with my steer safe stabilizer.There not enogh tension on the srings and i was thinking maybe i couldget some loger eye bolts to get the tension that will give me the right feel to the wheel.It has better returnabitiy but lacks on fatigue.fixing Constant correction is what i am going for and the only improvement i see so far is better returnability and that not much.I had all front end components checked and 3 alignments.I wont to get your opinions on the longer eye bolt theory.

Call the company and ask them. They are the ones who test the items. Yes streaching the spring will cause it to have more return pressure, however they also know how far the springs can streach while still returing to it's original shape, and how long the spring must become during a maximum right or left turn. If the springs start out longer, and then in a maximum turn are streached say 2" farther, it might cause distorsion in the spring, leaving them perminately longer than origianl.Just a thought.Fred.PS: Are you having problems with wander? Or the steering not returning to center? Or tire wear un-evenly?Checking the tire lean in and lean out can tell you how well it can track down the road. Some alignment shops "Claim" there is no way to adjust the lean of a tire on a straight axle chassis, such as my F-53 Super Duty frame (97). However a good truck shop, with 20 ton jacks can make adjustments, and did mine when it was 3 months old, with 951 miles on it. Never had to make an adjustment in the past 17 years after that, and the tire wear is really even.If you have this problem, then you need to find a truck alignment shop that is over 40 years old, and knows how to deal with straight axles. The place I went to has been in business since 1948.Fred.

I don't see how longer eye bolts will help. It would give you less tension. Shorter springs maybe. Are you sure it's installed correctly? When you put that assembly with the plate and folcum(sp)through the A arm frame you leave the nuts loose and slide it towards the front wheel. Then hook the springs onto wheel side then the other side to the eye bolts making sure you have the nut on the back side of the eye bolt threaded on flush. Next slide the bracket in the A frame back as far as you can keeping the folcum centered on the pins and then tighten the A frame assembly bolts. Now thread the nuts on the back side of the eye bolts all the way down stick a screwdriver in the eye bolt to hold back on while doing this.

Hi All.Are you sure you have everything lined up correctly on your "Steer-Safe", Joe, I don't mean you any disrespect, but there have been a couple of times here on this Fourm, that the installer (Owner) really didn't do the install correctly. I did our install of our "Steer-Safe", and its the differance betweeen night and day. As soon as I finished, I took it straight down and have the Front End Aligment done correctly. Also, I know that we don't have any Front End Parts, that are worn or lose. We even just had all new tires installed also.I also replaced the OEM "Steering Stabilizer Shock", and all the rest of the OEM Shocks while I was at it. Our Motorhome is now a pleasure to drive, and no more worries about "Wondering" or "Passing Semis". Ours Steers and Handles very easily with just one hand now. That alone sure make for a much more comfortable drive and ride.I also have the "5000lb Air-Lift", Air Bags on all four corners. Something just doesn't sound right on your Steer-Safe Install, or maybe you have other issues with your front end, or something else that your not aware of. I agree, that I don't think that "Longer Eye Bolts" is going to do anything for you, as longer would add to your problems.Hope you find your problem as soon as you can. That "Steer-Safe" really is a good prouduct. Are you sure you have the Correct "Steer-Safe" Set, ?Good Luck. Happy Travels. Dan & Jill

I installed the Steer Safe on one coach that I had. When installing it, you loosen the "eye" bolts as much as possible, and then pull the assembly as far form the wheel as possible. This puts some tension on the springs when you tighten the brackets. After the bracket is tightened, you then can tighten the "eye" bolts to put further tension on the springs. Prior to installing the SteerSafe, I drove down the highway and put a mark on the steering wheel that showed where the wheel was pointed when going straight.Once I got the SteerSafe installed, I used my levelers to lift the front end off of the ground. The wheel immediately swung to close to center. I then adjusted the SteerSafe springs to where the mark on my steering wheel lined up with my previous "center" mark. That was the one and only adjustment I made to my SteerSafe and during the few years, and thousands of miles that I used it, I never needed to make another adjustment. It is a good product and will definitely improve your comfort while going down the highway. You will not have to fight the steering wheel to keep things centered when it is adjusted right.

Click HERE then Helpfull links then all the way down on the page click steer safe install to see install directions. All P chassis part number is NC-800-97UD. I measure from inside of rim to grease fitting on A frame to center wheels.

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chili_s_trip
Explorer II
Apr 30, 2013
joe0508 wrote:
I have three extra already.All i would have to get is one if need be.I dont think it will be a problem as long as i take it a little at a time.I plan on starting with a half an inch and see if i see any improvment.

The system has 400# of tension when in spec. Do you really think more tension will make a difference?! Good luck!
Jack H
joe0508
Explorer
Apr 30, 2013
I have three extra already.All i would have to get is one if need be.I dont think it will be a problem as long as i take it a little at a time.I plan on starting with a half an inch and see if i see any improvment.
mike_brez
Explorer
Apr 30, 2013
OnaQuest wrote:
joe0508 wrote:
It seems to me that with longer eye bolts i can slide the fulcrum further back than i will have the extra threads to pull the springs back further.Am i wrong with this theory?

Let us know how expensive it is to replace the springs after you stretch, break and lose a few of them. Inquiring minds want to know.

I dont think that would be a problem He lost a couple already.
OnaQuest
Explorer
Apr 30, 2013
joe0508 wrote:
It seems to me that with longer eye bolts i can slide the fulcrum further back than i will have the extra threads to pull the springs back further.Am i wrong with this theory?

Let us know how expensive it is to replace the springs after you stretch, break and lose a few of them. Inquiring minds want to know.
chili_s_trip
Explorer II
Apr 29, 2013
rgatijnet1 wrote:
joe0508 wrote:
It seems to me that with longer eye bolts i can slide the fulcrum further back than i will have the extra threads to pull the springs back further.Am i wrong with this theory?

I theory that is correct but what if you over-extend the springs? Those springs were designed at that length for a reason. You may be able to stretch them further, but you have to wonder why they didn't do that at the factory. You also have to think about the eye bolts that you want to use. Are they the cheap Chinese eye bolts found at Home Depot, or are they the hardened steel eye bolts supplied by the factory?
If you stretch the springs past the point of no return, they would be weaker, and it could make the whole unit useless.
Thousands of people have used SteerSafe as designed. Take a good look at the installation instructions and figure out what you are doing wrong.

X2 SteerSafe has been in business over 37 years! They may have got it right!
Jack H
joe0508
Explorer
Apr 29, 2013
I have found someone on another forum that has done the longer eye bolt theory with great success.They bought the eye bolts from home depot.I think it will work.I will just put another inch on them and test it out.I have been under this thing several time and i am sure it is installed correctly.The only thing that i wasnt sure of was thej hook.Evertime i would go to tighten it down it would twist.I called steer safe and they said i was tightening it down to much.
mike_brez
Explorer
Apr 29, 2013
rgatijnet1 wrote:
joe0508 wrote:
It seems to me that with longer eye bolts i can slide the fulcrum further back than i will have the extra threads to pull the springs back further.Am i wrong with this theory?

I theory that is correct but what if you over-extend the springs? Those springs were designed at that length for a reason. You may be able to stretch them further, but you have to wonder why they didn't do that at the factory. You also have to think about the eye bolts that you want to use. Are they the cheap Chinese eye bolts found at Home Depot, or are they the hardened steel eye bolts supplied by the factory?
If you stretch the springs past the point of no return, they would be weaker, and it could make the whole unit useless.
Thousands of people have used SteerSafe as designed. Take a good look at the installation instructions and figure out what you are doing wrong.

X2
rgatijnet1
Explorer III
Apr 29, 2013
joe0508 wrote:
It seems to me that with longer eye bolts i can slide the fulcrum further back than i will have the extra threads to pull the springs back further.Am i wrong with this theory?

I theory that is correct but what if you over-extend the springs? Those springs were designed at that length for a reason. You may be able to stretch them further, but you have to wonder why they didn't do that at the factory. You also have to think about the eye bolts that you want to use. Are they the cheap Chinese eye bolts found at Home Depot, or are they the hardened steel eye bolts supplied by the factory?
If you stretch the springs past the point of no return, they would be weaker, and it could make the whole unit useless.
Thousands of people have used SteerSafe as designed. Take a good look at the installation instructions and figure out what you are doing wrong.
joe0508
Explorer
Apr 29, 2013
It seems to me that with longer eye bolts i can slide the fulcrum further back than i will have the extra threads to pull the springs back further.Am i wrong with this theory?
OnaQuest
Explorer
Apr 29, 2013
From my experience with installing (and using) my Steer-Safe, it sure sounds like yours was not installed completely or correctly. As others have said, the eye bolts need to be very loose (nuts on just the first few threads) while the brackets are positioned toward the vehicle center. After the brackets are tightened, then the eye bolts should be tightened all the way down. This puts the correct amount of tension on the springs. Slight centering adjustments can be made from this point by loosening the correct spring(s).

Your expectations may be a little too high on the results you receive from the Steer Safe. It will never eliminate the need for frequent corrections unless you can teach it to adjust for road crowns, cross winds and rutted highways. It's just not going to happen, however, the improvement should be very noticeable.

The main purpose of the Steer Safe is to keep the wheel straight in the event of a blow out or a wheel drop off the pavement at driving speeds, but it does make driving and steering easier when installed properly.

Your own driving habits contribute a lot to the "constant correction" syndrome. You (any of us) need to focus your eyes about 150/200 yards down the road and steer to that spot rather than watching the road directly in front of the coach and constantly correcting to keep the vehicle exactly in the center of the lane. Let the old girl "wander" a little bit. Try it, you'll like it.

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