new hd antenna

Tom_M wrote:

MNtundraRet wrote:

Tom_M wrote:
The big question is how well the VHF reception compares with the Batwing?

If you are talking about channels 2 through 6 which were in the bands auctioned off that is still an "unknown" for my comparisons.

I have not run into any stations in Minnesota or Iowa still transmitting in that RF channel range.

WOI in Des Moines, IA broadcasts on RF channel 5. There are only 39 full power stations in the U.S. broadcasting on the low VHF band (ch 2-6) and 426 on the high VHF band (ch 7-13). The total number of stations in the U.S. is about 1800. Here's a link to a spreadsheet listing all the full power stations in the U.S. as of July 2012: http://www.rabbitears.info/ss/DTV-Channels.xls

I did get that WOI (channel 5.1) while in Kalona, IA (around 100 miles)along with the other major channels in the Des Moines area. However; I work under more ideal conditions with 20 decibels of gain and RG6u (quad-shielded cable) except for the 2 feet above roof.

MNtundraRet wrote:

Tom_M wrote:
The big question is how well the VHF reception compares with the Batwing?

If you are talking about channels 2 through 6 which were in the bands auctioned off that is still an "unknown" for my comparisons.

I have not run into any stations in Minnesota or Iowa still transmitting in that RF channel range.

WOI in Des Moines, IA broadcasts on RF channel 5. There are only 39 full power stations in the U.S. broadcasting on the low VHF band (ch 2-6) and 426 on the high VHF band (ch 7-13). The total number of stations in the U.S. is about 1800. Here's a link to a spreadsheet listing all the full power stations in the U.S. as of July 2012: http://www.rabbitears.info/ss/DTV-Channels.xls

The VHF-low channels are still out there. In Las Vegas NBC channel 3 is broadcast on VHF channel 3. It was impossible for the Winegard Rayzar Air to hold the signal while parked at the Circus Circus KOA (now closed).

The Jack is definitely shorter for sure. They designed for their currently technology: The Batwing has been around since Dinosaurs, and the Jack came out several years into the analog shutdown when most were heading to UHF. Its going to be very interesting to see who bites at the bait and vacates to VHF AND takes a multi-million $$ buyout vs. those taking WAY more cash and shutting down operations altogether.

From the inside views we have seen of the Jack, Winegard Sensor, and the Razor Air, the largest elements required for low VHF signals look very similar for total length in the Winegard antennas.

I would expect at least similar range from both.

MNtundraRet wrote:

Tom_M wrote:
The big question is how well the VHF reception compares with the Batwing?

If you are talking about channels 2 through 6 which were in the bands auctioned off that is still an "unknown" for my comparisons.

I have not run into any stations in Minnesota or Iowa still transmitting in that RF channel range.

U will.... Theres another auction comin' and they are making the VHF band (that nobody wants) really attractive.

Tom_M wrote:
The big question is how well the VHF reception compares with the Batwing?

If you are talking about channels 2 through 6 which were in the bands auctioned off that is still an "unknown" for my comparisons.

I have not run into any stations in Minnesota or Iowa still transmitting in that RF channel range.

The big question is how well the VHF reception compares with the Batwing?

MNtundraRet wrote:
It 's a new toy. :B

I am still figuring out how to use it to it 's best ability. :C

Right now it 's the best RV antenna on the market.
:W

YEP

It 's a new toy. :B

I am still figuring out how to use it to it 's best ability. :C

I did figure it out after missing the Open. :M

I thought I finally had you hooked. It,'s only 50 bucks man!

So far in about a dozen locations it has done better than the Winegard III with Wingman. I have no plans to quit using it.

Right now it 's the best RV antenna on the market.
:W