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BobbieLee
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Jul 14, 2018

Mechanical stuff...

Hi. First post here so thanks in advance for reading. We are a family of 4 from Michigan considering our first TT purchase.

We love the layout of the FR Cherokee 264DBH. But what we are struggling with is the good, better, best on siding, frames, slide technology, window construction etc. Is the Cherokee going to hold up given our intended usage? Would we be better off paying $5-10k more and getting a similar layout with fiberglass and a better floor, frame, etc? We’re not planning on using this thing more than 21 days per year but would like it to last for 10 years.

And what construction musts do you recommend?

We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA. The 2510BH Highlabd Ridge is looking more like what we need. Something 5000 poundsish with sturdier axles.

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  • BobbieLee's avatar
    BobbieLee
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    Jul 16, 2018
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    Thanks for all the feedback.

    I looked at Lance and LivinLite. The axle weight comment someone made really has me changing my direction. We are willing to go with a little shorter and lighter RV and trade my lease in for a second, better tow vehicle. The problem I am finding is that everything with the creature comforts we want is either $20k for low-end construction or over $40k for an overbuild - we ain’t living in it. We can’t find the better in “good, better, best”
  • SoundGuy's avatar
    SoundGuy
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    Jul 15, 2018
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    SoundGuy wrote:
    No kidding! :E All 3 GM 5.3L trucks I've towed with have run a 3.42 axle which itself isn't all that great for towing, I'd much prefer a 3.73 even with my current 2012 Silvy which is equipped with the newer narrow ratio 6-speed transmission. 3.08 for towing anything but a popup is a non-starter IMO. :(


    Grit dog wrote:
    Then you should just get a bigger truck next time instead of complaining about the poor performance even though you've made the same choice 3x in a row as I read it.


    Nope, not a chance when a 1/2 ton Chevy works so well for all other uses. Badgering me doesn't change the fact that a 3.42 axle is only so-so for towing purposes, anything higher (lower numerically) is terrible, and the better choice would be 3.73 or lower (higher numerically). The OP apparently says their truck has 3.08 which is GM's attempt to improve fuel mileage returns in general driving around but it's totally unsuitable for towing.
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
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    Jul 15, 2018
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    free radical wrote:
    BobbieLee wrote:
    Can’t rent or buy used. Germs. Lol. That is why we want an Rv...to avoid the hotel funk. But we can be happier with smaller and lighter.

    Casita is small :)

    Im a carpenter by trade,and would never buy any TT built from those tiny sticks stapled together and aluminum skin..anything that needs recaulking is a no no in my book..

    Id only buy good quality fiberglass or solid aluminum such as Airstream..
    There are others but dont recall the names right now..

    Sure it cost more up front but Im not so rich to waste money on cheap junk that needs continous maintanance and fixing..
    good luck finding what you want


    Agree on the quality thing to a point, but idk about you. I see thousands or tens of thousands sticks n staples RVs going everywhere. Doesn't seem like they just fall apart.
    But you know. Someone posts a question on here and within 2 pages they're an idiot and nothing but a new 1 ton diesel and an Airstream will will even make it out of the driveway much less to a campground....
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
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    Jul 15, 2018
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    SoundGuy wrote:
    BobbieLee wrote:
    We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

    UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA.


    bikendan wrote:
    Even with the newer higher speed transmissions, the 3.08 rear end is lousy for towing. A 3.42 would be much better.


    No kidding! :E All 3 GM 5.3L trucks I've towed with have run a 3.42 axle which itself isn't all that great for towing, I'd much prefer a 3.73 even with my current 2012 Silvy which is equipped with the newer narrow ratio 6-speed transmission. 3.08 for towing anything but a popup is a non-starter IMO. :(


    Then you should just get a bigger truck next time instead of complaining about the poor performance even though you've made the same choice 3x in a row as I read it.
    On the flip side, I've drug 6k to 14klb trailers around with my 2016 5.3 Silvy work truck. Perty sure she has 3.42s, but nonetheless, it seems to do do fine. Even in the low alt mtns we have here.
    Will my hopped up diesel pull the pants off the little Chevy? Sure, but equating a new fillsize half ton with the big engine to no greater than a popup is just talking to hear yourself talk.....
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    tomman58
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    lIKELY THE BEST AND MOST HONEST tt DEALER IS IN tAWAS AND THEIR OTHER COMPANY IS IN aLPENA. Opps. They are Jayco dealers and I have used them for years. To us they are not far from our summer cottage. You will find the dealer is your most needed friend. Also the best TT deals are not in the tricounty area.
  • Optimistic_Para's avatar
    Optimistic_Para
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    free radical wrote:
    Im a carpenter by trade,and would never buy any TT built from those tiny sticks stapled together and aluminum skin..


    The people with bus conversions like to point out that when a bus gets into an accident, it looks like a bus got into an accident. When a motor home or trailer gets into an accident, it looks like a tornado hit a trailer park! :)
  • SoundGuy's avatar
    SoundGuy
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    BobbieLee wrote:
    We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

    UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA.


    bikendan wrote:
    Even with the newer higher speed transmissions, the 3.08 rear end is lousy for towing. A 3.42 would be much better.


    No kidding! :E All 3 GM 5.3L trucks I've towed with have run a 3.42 axle which itself isn't all that great for towing, I'd much prefer a 3.73 even with my current 2012 Silvy which is equipped with the newer narrow ratio 6-speed transmission. 3.08 for towing anything but a popup is a non-starter IMO. :(
  • free_radical's avatar
    free_radical
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    Jul 15, 2018
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    BobbieLee wrote:
    Can’t rent or buy used. Germs. Lol. That is why we want an Rv...to avoid the hotel funk. But we can be happier with smaller and lighter.

    Casita is small :)

    Im a carpenter by trade,and would never buy any TT built from those tiny sticks stapled together and aluminum skin..anything that needs recaulking is a no no in my book..

    Id only buy good quality fiberglass or solid aluminum such as Airstream..
    There are others but dont recall the names right now..

    Sure it cost more up front but Im not so rich to waste money on cheap junk that needs continous maintanance and fixing..
    good luck finding what you want
  • JimK-NY's avatar
    JimK-NY
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    Jul 15, 2018
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    Here are my comments for what they are worth.

    First almost all RVs are built poorly. Not just a little poor but grossly poor construction and design.

    Buy used whenever possible. RVs depreciate rapidly. Many of them are only used a few times before the owners realize they made a mistake.

    When buying a trailer start by considering the axles, wheels and CCC. Many are built so flimsy they cannot safely carry anything. Personal items, clothing, cooking gear, and other essential add up quickly.
  • bikendan's avatar
    bikendan
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    BobbieLee wrote:


    We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

    UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA. The 2510BH Highlabd Ridge is looking more like what we need. Something 5000 poundsish with sturdier axles.


    Even with the newer higher speed transmissions, the 3.08 rear end is lousy for towing. A 3.42 would be much better.
    Does your leased Chevy have the factory tow package and can you use it for towing with a WDH?

    The UVW of the 2510BH is 5385lbs. That's without battery, options, cargo and water. It will easily weigh over 6000lbs loaded for camping.

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I looked at Lance and LivinLite. The axle weight comment someone made really has me changing my direction. We are willing to go with a little shorter and lighter RV and trade my lease in for a second, better tow vehicle. The problem I am finding is that everything with the creature comforts we want is either $20k for low-end construction or over $40k for an overbuild - we ain’t living in it. We can’t find the better in “good, better, best”","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-07-15T17:12:13.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-07-15T17:12:13.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":348},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVNewbies/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVNewbiesforum-board/message:3098566/message:3098596","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"487","rawBody":"Thanks for all the feedback.

I looked at Lance and LivinLite. The axle weight comment someone made really has me changing my direction. We are willing to go with a little shorter and lighter RV and trade my lease in for a second, better tow vehicle. The problem I am finding is that everything with the creature comforts we want is either $20k for low-end construction or over $40k for an overbuild - we ain’t living in it. We can’t find the better in “good, better, best”","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3098596_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:192433":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:192433","uid":192433,"login":"SoundGuy","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2015-02-11T04:00:35.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:192433"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098595":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3098595","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3098595":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:192433"},"id":"message:3098595","revisionNum":1,"uid":3098595,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVNewbiesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3098566"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3098566"},"subject":"Re: Mechanical stuff...","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098595"},"body":"
SoundGuy wrote:
No kidding! :E All 3 GM 5.3L trucks I've towed with have run a 3.42 axle which itself isn't all that great for towing, I'd much prefer a 3.73 even with my current 2012 Silvy which is equipped with the newer narrow ratio 6-speed transmission. 3.08 for towing anything but a popup is a non-starter IMO. :(


Grit dog wrote:
Then you should just get a bigger truck next time instead of complaining about the poor performance even though you've made the same choice 3x in a row as I read it.


Nope, not a chance when a 1/2 ton Chevy works so well for all other uses. Badgering me doesn't change the fact that a 3.42 axle is only so-so for towing purposes, anything higher (lower numerically) is terrible, and the better choice would be 3.73 or lower (higher numerically). The OP apparently says their truck has 3.08 which is GM's attempt to improve fuel mileage returns in general driving around but it's totally unsuitable for towing.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-07-15T11:21:21.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-07-15T11:21:21.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":347},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVNewbies/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVNewbiesforum-board/message:3098566/message:3098595","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1044","rawBody":"
SoundGuy wrote:
No kidding! :E All 3 GM 5.3L trucks I've towed with have run a 3.42 axle which itself isn't all that great for towing, I'd much prefer a 3.73 even with my current 2012 Silvy which is equipped with the newer narrow ratio 6-speed transmission. 3.08 for towing anything but a popup is a non-starter IMO. :(


Grit dog wrote:
Then you should just get a bigger truck next time instead of complaining about the poor performance even though you've made the same choice 3x in a row as I read it.


Nope, not a chance when a 1/2 ton Chevy works so well for all other uses. Badgering me doesn't change the fact that a 3.42 axle is only so-so for towing purposes, anything higher (lower numerically) is terrible, and the better choice would be 3.73 or lower (higher numerically). The OP apparently says their truck has 3.08 which is GM's attempt to improve fuel mileage returns in general driving around but it's totally unsuitable for towing.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3098595_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:36":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:36","position":23,"name":"Navigator","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:227630":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:227630","uid":227630,"login":"Grit_dog","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-05-06T12:40:47.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:36"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:227630"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098594":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3098594","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3098594":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3098594","revisionNum":1,"uid":3098594,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVNewbiesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3098566"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3098566"},"subject":"Re: Mechanical stuff...","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098594"},"body":"
free radical wrote:
BobbieLee wrote:
Can’t rent or buy used. Germs. Lol. That is why we want an Rv...to avoid the hotel funk. But we can be happier with smaller and lighter.

Casita is small :)

Im a carpenter by trade,and would never buy any TT built from those tiny sticks stapled together and aluminum skin..anything that needs recaulking is a no no in my book..

Id only buy good quality fiberglass or solid aluminum such as Airstream..
There are others but dont recall the names right now..

Sure it cost more up front but Im not so rich to waste money on cheap junk that needs continous maintanance and fixing..
good luck finding what you want


Agree on the quality thing to a point, but idk about you. I see thousands or tens of thousands sticks n staples RVs going everywhere. Doesn't seem like they just fall apart.
But you know. Someone posts a question on here and within 2 pages they're an idiot and nothing but a new 1 ton diesel and an Airstream will will even make it out of the driveway much less to a campground....","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-07-15T11:19:01.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-07-15T11:19:01.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":346},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVNewbies/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVNewbiesforum-board/message:3098566/message:3098594","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1158","rawBody":"
free radical wrote:
BobbieLee wrote:
Can’t rent or buy used. Germs. Lol. That is why we want an Rv...to avoid the hotel funk. But we can be happier with smaller and lighter.

Casita is small :)

Im a carpenter by trade,and would never buy any TT built from those tiny sticks stapled together and aluminum skin..anything that needs recaulking is a no no in my book..

Id only buy good quality fiberglass or solid aluminum such as Airstream..
There are others but dont recall the names right now..

Sure it cost more up front but Im not so rich to waste money on cheap junk that needs continous maintanance and fixing..
good luck finding what you want


Agree on the quality thing to a point, but idk about you. I see thousands or tens of thousands sticks n staples RVs going everywhere. Doesn't seem like they just fall apart.
But you know. Someone posts a question on here and within 2 pages they're an idiot and nothing but a new 1 ton diesel and an Airstream will will even make it out of the driveway much less to a campground....","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3098594_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098593":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3098593","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3098593":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3098593","revisionNum":1,"uid":3098593,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVNewbiesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3098566"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3098566"},"subject":"Re: Mechanical stuff...","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098593"},"body":"
SoundGuy wrote:
BobbieLee wrote:
We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA.


bikendan wrote:
Even with the newer higher speed transmissions, the 3.08 rear end is lousy for towing. A 3.42 would be much better.


No kidding! :E All 3 GM 5.3L trucks I've towed with have run a 3.42 axle which itself isn't all that great for towing, I'd much prefer a 3.73 even with my current 2012 Silvy which is equipped with the newer narrow ratio 6-speed transmission. 3.08 for towing anything but a popup is a non-starter IMO. :(


Then you should just get a bigger truck next time instead of complaining about the poor performance even though you've made the same choice 3x in a row as I read it.
On the flip side, I've drug 6k to 14klb trailers around with my 2016 5.3 Silvy work truck. Perty sure she has 3.42s, but nonetheless, it seems to do do fine. Even in the low alt mtns we have here.
Will my hopped up diesel pull the pants off the little Chevy? Sure, but equating a new fillsize half ton with the big engine to no greater than a popup is just talking to hear yourself talk.....","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-07-15T11:15:04.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-07-15T11:15:04.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":346},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVNewbies/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVNewbiesforum-board/message:3098566/message:3098593","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1317","rawBody":"
SoundGuy wrote:
BobbieLee wrote:
We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA.


bikendan wrote:
Even with the newer higher speed transmissions, the 3.08 rear end is lousy for towing. A 3.42 would be much better.


No kidding! :E All 3 GM 5.3L trucks I've towed with have run a 3.42 axle which itself isn't all that great for towing, I'd much prefer a 3.73 even with my current 2012 Silvy which is equipped with the newer narrow ratio 6-speed transmission. 3.08 for towing anything but a popup is a non-starter IMO. :(


Then you should just get a bigger truck next time instead of complaining about the poor performance even though you've made the same choice 3x in a row as I read it.
On the flip side, I've drug 6k to 14klb trailers around with my 2016 5.3 Silvy work truck. Perty sure she has 3.42s, but nonetheless, it seems to do do fine. Even in the low alt mtns we have here.
Will my hopped up diesel pull the pants off the little Chevy? Sure, but equating a new fillsize half ton with the big engine to no greater than a popup is just talking to hear yourself talk.....","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3098593_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:21872":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:21872","uid":21872,"login":"tomman58","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-06-12T05:23:57.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:21872"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098592":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3098592","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3098592":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:21872"},"id":"message:3098592","revisionNum":1,"uid":3098592,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVNewbiesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3098566"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3098566"},"subject":"Re: Mechanical stuff...","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098592"},"body":"lIKELY THE BEST AND MOST HONEST tt DEALER IS IN tAWAS AND THEIR OTHER COMPANY IS IN aLPENA. 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free radical wrote:
Im a carpenter by trade,and would never buy any TT built from those tiny sticks stapled together and aluminum skin..


The people with bus conversions like to point out that when a bus gets into an accident, it looks like a bus got into an accident. When a motor home or trailer gets into an accident, it looks like a tornado hit a trailer park! :)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-07-15T06:07:44.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-07-15T06:07:44.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":347},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVNewbies/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVNewbiesforum-board/message:3098566/message:3098591","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"408","rawBody":"
free radical wrote:
Im a carpenter by trade,and would never buy any TT built from those tiny sticks stapled together and aluminum skin..


The people with bus conversions like to point out that when a bus gets into an accident, it looks like a bus got into an accident. When a motor home or trailer gets into an accident, it looks like a tornado hit a trailer park! :)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3098591_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098590":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3098590","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3098590":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:192433"},"id":"message:3098590","revisionNum":1,"uid":3098590,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVNewbiesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3098566"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3098566"},"subject":"Re: Mechanical stuff...","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098590"},"body":"
BobbieLee wrote:
We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA.


bikendan wrote:
Even with the newer higher speed transmissions, the 3.08 rear end is lousy for towing. A 3.42 would be much better.


No kidding! :E All 3 GM 5.3L trucks I've towed with have run a 3.42 axle which itself isn't all that great for towing, I'd much prefer a 3.73 even with my current 2012 Silvy which is equipped with the newer narrow ratio 6-speed transmission. 3.08 for towing anything but a popup is a non-starter IMO. :(","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-07-15T04:48:56.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-07-15T04:48:56.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":346},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVNewbies/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVNewbiesforum-board/message:3098566/message:3098590","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"689","rawBody":"
BobbieLee wrote:
We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA.


bikendan wrote:
Even with the newer higher speed transmissions, the 3.08 rear end is lousy for towing. A 3.42 would be much better.


No kidding! :E All 3 GM 5.3L trucks I've towed with have run a 3.42 axle which itself isn't all that great for towing, I'd much prefer a 3.73 even with my current 2012 Silvy which is equipped with the newer narrow ratio 6-speed transmission. 3.08 for towing anything but a popup is a non-starter IMO. :(","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3098590_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:268102":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:268102","uid":268102,"login":"free_radical","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-02-07T17:38:03.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:268102"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098589":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3098589","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3098589":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:268102"},"id":"message:3098589","revisionNum":1,"uid":3098589,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVNewbiesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3098566"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3098566"},"subject":"Re: Mechanical stuff...","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098589"},"body":"
BobbieLee wrote:
Can’t rent or buy used. Germs. Lol. That is why we want an Rv...to avoid the hotel funk. But we can be happier with smaller and lighter.

Casita is small :)

Im a carpenter by trade,and would never buy any TT built from those tiny sticks stapled together and aluminum skin..anything that needs recaulking is a no no in my book..

Id only buy good quality fiberglass or solid aluminum such as Airstream..
There are others but dont recall the names right now..

Sure it cost more up front but Im not so rich to waste money on cheap junk that needs continous maintanance and fixing..
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BobbieLee wrote:
Can’t rent or buy used. Germs. Lol. That is why we want an Rv...to avoid the hotel funk. But we can be happier with smaller and lighter.

Casita is small :)

Im a carpenter by trade,and would never buy any TT built from those tiny sticks stapled together and aluminum skin..anything that needs recaulking is a no no in my book..

Id only buy good quality fiberglass or solid aluminum such as Airstream..
There are others but dont recall the names right now..

Sure it cost more up front but Im not so rich to waste money on cheap junk that needs continous maintanance and fixing..
good luck finding what you want","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3098589_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:41":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:41","position":33,"name":"Explorer II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:158721":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:158721","uid":158721,"login":"JimK-NY","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-05-12T19:30:40.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-7.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:158721"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098588":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3098588","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3098588":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:158721"},"id":"message:3098588","revisionNum":1,"uid":3098588,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVNewbiesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3098566"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3098566"},"subject":"Re: Mechanical stuff...","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098588"},"body":"Here are my comments for what they are worth.

First almost all RVs are built poorly. Not just a little poor but grossly poor construction and design.

Buy used whenever possible. RVs depreciate rapidly. Many of them are only used a few times before the owners realize they made a mistake.

When buying a trailer start by considering the axles, wheels and CCC. Many are built so flimsy they cannot safely carry anything. Personal items, clothing, cooking gear, and other essential add up quickly.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-07-14T18:11:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-07-14T18:11:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":348},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVNewbies/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVNewbiesforum-board/message:3098566/message:3098588","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"531","rawBody":"Here are my comments for what they are worth.

First almost all RVs are built poorly. Not just a little poor but grossly poor construction and design.

Buy used whenever possible. RVs depreciate rapidly. Many of them are only used a few times before the owners realize they made a mistake.

When buying a trailer start by considering the axles, wheels and CCC. Many are built so flimsy they cannot safely carry anything. Personal items, clothing, cooking gear, and other essential add up quickly.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3098588_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:72388":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:72388","uid":72388,"login":"bikendan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-11-20T23:48:39.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:72388"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098587":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3098587","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3098587":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:72388"},"id":"message:3098587","revisionNum":1,"uid":3098587,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVNewbiesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3098566"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3098566"},"subject":"Re: Mechanical stuff...","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3098587"},"body":"
BobbieLee wrote:


We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA. The 2510BH Highlabd Ridge is looking more like what we need. Something 5000 poundsish with sturdier axles.


Even with the newer higher speed transmissions, the 3.08 rear end is lousy for towing. A 3.42 would be much better.
Does your leased Chevy have the factory tow package and can you use it for towing with a WDH?

The UVW of the 2510BH is 5385lbs. That's without battery, options, cargo and water. It will easily weigh over 6000lbs loaded for camping.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2018-07-14T17:53:15.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2018-07-14T17:53:15.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":346},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:RVNewbies/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:RVNewbiesforum-board/message:3098566/message:3098587","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"674","rawBody":"
BobbieLee wrote:


We’ll be towing with a Chevy Silvarado.

UPDATE: THANKS for all the advice. The Silverado is a 5.3L with the 3.08 RA. The 2510BH Highlabd Ridge is looking more like what we need. Something 5000 poundsish with sturdier axles.


Even with the newer higher speed transmissions, the 3.08 rear end is lousy for towing. A 3.42 would be much better.
Does your leased Chevy have the factory tow package and can you use it for towing with a WDH?

The UVW of the 2510BH is 5385lbs. That's without battery, options, cargo and water. 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