Think this 5th wheel is going to try to fast chrg his Batts

HTElectrical wrote:

John & Angela wrote:

azdryheat wrote:
There are that many $100k Tesla cars running around to justify so many pumps?

Just under three hundred thousand on the road and that expected to double in the next year. By the end of 2018 there are 350,000 per year and by end 2019 450,000 per year. His view is that the infrastructure needs to be in place for that kind of growth. Right now there are over 1000 locations with over 7000 individual chargers. That number will double within two years. The biggest stations are in China although this one is baker is one of the two biggest in the USA. The other is in Kettleman. Here is a video of that one. Shows the lounge, coffee and area, dog walk area etc. It just opened up last week. It looks like you could get a Model X towing a trailer through the stalls. There are a few people towing small air strea,s and pop ups with them. At many superchargers you have to unhook the trailer from the Tesla but with the drive through you can just go through. Looks tight but I think it would fit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wkc7PUSyR0


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The trailer belows weighs 2350 pounds and the Tesla X pulls it from 0-60 in 5,5 seconds. It is rated for 4000 or 5000 pounds depending on configuration.

That is VERY VERY optomistic. They have been manufacturing cars for 14 YEARS and only delivered 300,000!!!
They haven't even been able to hit there 5,000 per week goal yet, which they were suppose to reach by the end of the year, instead, that has been pushed to March of 2018.

I agree that it is optimistic but he has also never had three lines before so I can see how it would be possible. My guess is this year he'll finish out with around 110,000 cars for the year.

Re building for 14 years of building. I think the roadster came out around 2008 or 2009 so he has been at it for around 8 or 9 years. The first production model S came out around mid 2012 though so he is still relatively inexperienced at high production car manufacturing.

Right for the last couple months a lot of people have been cancelling their model 3's and been buying the model s's. This probably works well for him as the margins are higher on those. Tesla normally has a reasonable inventory of S's and X's but right now it is close to zero so demand has been good. The next 3 months will be interesting. I suspect he'll get a couple thousand more three's out this year and then see the ramp up next january february. A lot of people waiting for their new toys. :) We'll wait a couple or three years till the piggy bank is fuller. :)

John & Angela wrote:

azdryheat wrote:
There are that many $100k Tesla cars running around to justify so many pumps?

Just under three hundred thousand on the road and that expected to double in the next year. By the end of 2018 there are 350,000 per year and by end 2019 450,000 per year. His view is that the infrastructure needs to be in place for that kind of growth. Right now there are over 1000 locations with over 7000 individual chargers. That number will double within two years. The biggest stations are in China although this one is baker is one of the two biggest in the USA. The other is in Kettleman. Here is a video of that one. Shows the lounge, coffee and area, dog walk area etc. It just opened up last week. It looks like you could get a Model X towing a trailer through the stalls. There are a few people towing small air strea,s and pop ups with them. At many superchargers you have to unhook the trailer from the Tesla but with the drive through you can just go through. Looks tight but I think it would fit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wkc7PUSyR0


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The trailer belows weighs 2350 pounds and the Tesla X pulls it from 0-60 in 5,5 seconds. It is rated for 4000 or 5000 pounds depending on configuration.

That is VERY VERY optomistic. They have been manufacturing cars for 14 YEARS and only delivered 300,000!!!
They haven't even been able to hit there 5,000 per week goal yet, which they were suppose to reach by the end of the year, instead, that has been pushed to March of 2018.

John & Angela wrote:

time2roll wrote:

packnrat wrote:
lets see.
100 miles to a five hr charge.
or

20 min to fill a gas tank ( and other nessarys) then 400 miles to the next stop? diesel even farther.

Why do people keep writing these false statements?

My guess is lack of understanding of the technology etc. There is a lot of misinformation out there.

Massive misunderstanding, Tesla has quoted 400 miles in 30 minutes for the Tesla semi with the mega chargers, can't wait to turn one of those into a 5th wheel hauler =)

time2roll wrote:

packnrat wrote:
lets see.
100 miles to a five hr charge.
or

20 min to fill a gas tank ( and other nessarys) then 400 miles to the next stop? diesel even farther.

Why do people keep writing these false statements?

My guess is lack of understanding of the technology etc. There is a lot of misinformation out there.

packnrat wrote:
lets see.
100 miles to a five hr charge.
or

20 min to fill a gas tank ( and other nessarys) then 400 miles to the next stop? diesel even farther.

Why do people keep writing these false statements?

wa8yxm wrote:
There are countries where the internal combustion engine is now outlawed for new vehicles. Still ok for Grandfathered (older) as I understand (Older means either 2017 or 2016 and older model years)

Some states here in the US are eying such legislation.. though only a couple of them at this time.. Not sure teh status but restrictions on emmissions in say CA are getting to the point where EV's are the only way to go.

So I think business will pick up at that re-charge station.

Here in SC. one BUS company is now has an all electric fleet at least on some routes... But then Clemson (Area transit) University beat Ohio Satat a few years back :) (I'm from Michigan).

So it's a college town.. OH, and you ride for FREE believe it or not. The city has done the math and decided they save money by giving free rides. How's that for NICE!!!!!. (I've seen the math, it works).

I'd not mind a Tesla as a towed. but I've got to get 'em to build one for 4-down towing. I **THINK** I know what they need to do.. but of course without sitting down with a design engineer and a lawyer (They are gonna want a contract) I can not be sure.

Well if you can figure it out a lot of people would like to know. We get emails and inquiries all the time on how we tow our EV behind our motorhome...and of course the answer is not what they want to hear...on a trailer. We would also like to be able to tow four down although we would lose the ability to back up which we kinda like. We will stay with this setup for now but will be watching for alternatives. We love the little car and the top down life of the convertible is almost as good as a motorcyle but there are times we wish we could tow the Leaf as well. Oh well. First world problems right. :)

There are countries where the internal combustion engine is now outlawed for new vehicles. Still ok for Grandfathered (older) as I understand (Older means either 2017 or 2016 and older model years)

Some states here in the US are eying such legislation.. though only a couple of them at this time.. Not sure teh status but restrictions on emmissions in say CA are getting to the point where EV's are the only way to go.

So I think business will pick up at that re-charge station.

Here in SC. one BUS company is now has an all electric fleet at least on some routes... But then Clemson (Area transit) University beat Ohio Satat a few years back :) (I'm from Michigan).

So it's a college town.. OH, and you ride for FREE believe it or not. The city has done the math and decided they save money by giving free rides. How's that for NICE!!!!!. (I've seen the math, it works).

I'd not mind a Tesla as a towed. but I've got to get 'em to build one for 4-down towing. I **THINK** I know what they need to do.. but of course without sitting down with a design engineer and a lawyer (They are gonna want a contract) I can not be sure.

packnrat wrote:
lets see.
100 miles to a five hr charge.
or

20 min to fill a gas tank ( and other nessarys) then 400 miles to the next stop? diesel even farther.

Whoops, I think you might have confused this supercharger with a wall charger commonly found in a home.

This is a Supercharger. Hard to tell what the charge rate for these particular ones is but lets say these are 120 KWH. (They vary) So here in that thirty minutes you would see about 180 to 200 miles of range added. However, he is pulling a trailer so from what others have reported you should probably take a third off that.

lets see.
100 miles to a five hr charge.
or

20 min to fill a gas tank ( and other nessarys) then 400 miles to the next stop? diesel even farther.

This is the problem that Teslas have at non pull thru supercharger sites. If they are busy you have to unhook. My Leaf is not rated to tow anything (although people do it) but it had the charge port on the front so it can be driven straight in. The Tesla has the charge point on the rear side.