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WD hitch and cargo behind rear axle & tongue weight

DwnSth
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I understand that any cargo behind rear axle must be added to tongue weight when selecting the proper overall WD system. Does this additional weight count against the receiver limits. For example, my loaded tongue wt is 1020 lbs, add 70 lbs for the hitch and I'm at 1090 lbs. My receiver is rated at 1130 with WD. I opted for an equalizer 14k thinking I might have some weight behind the axle. Just want to confirm, I can always load things ahead of rear axle if needed.
2014 Berkshire 360QL
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lbrjet
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You posed a good question but I can't answer it. Your hitch and bars probably weigh more than 70lbs though. My 12K hitch and bars weigh 90 lbs.
2010 F250 4X4 5.4L 3.73 LS
2011 Flagstaff 831FKBSS
Equalizer E4 1200/12000

DwnSth
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My payload is 2090....so I'm more concerned about my receiver limitation. The whole idea about tongue weight was brought on by a conversation I had with a major on-line hitch retailer. I actually do understand that the weight behind the rear axle becomes part of the bars ability to transfer weight. They had led me to believe the cargo behind rear axle actually affected the tongue weight. For a WD to work properly, yes you do need to include that weight in calculations which is why I went with a 14k hitch. I like to keep my generator in an easy to load and get to spot.
2014 Berkshire 360QL

LarryJM
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Explorer II
campigloo wrote:
The weight on the receiver is what is loaded directly on it; things like batteries, propane tanks etc. that are on the trailer or part of the hitch. Things in the bed of the truck count against payload but not receiver weight.


While that is one view it is one that I do not subscribe to. There are supporting information for both views, but IMO the WDH system wt. goes against the receiver and WDH ratings and after the WDH system is adjusted any wt. aft of the axle puts additional wt. on both the Receiver and what the WDH is "re distributing" so it also goes against those two related tongue wts. Obviously neither of these additional wts. are included in what I call the dead tongue wt. or that you would measure with the trailer disconnected and measured by something like a Sherline tongue scale. IIRC two well respected sources (e-trailer and Equal-i-zer) agrees with my interpretation of what is part of the various tongue wts. as it applies to the various equipment ratings.

Larry
2001 standard box 7.3L E-350 PSD Van with 4.10 rear and 2007 Holiday Rambler Aluma-Lite 8306S Been RV'ing since 1974.
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noteven
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Explorer III
edited.

lanerd
Explorer II
Explorer II
Me thinks you're a little confused. As Mike said, adding weight behind the rear wheels only subtracts from the payload amount, not add to the tongue weight. Not sure what your truck's payload capacity is, but I would think with a 1090 lb tongue weight, you just might be pushing that limit.

Remember, everything and anything you put in or on the truck itself should be subtracted from the truck's payload capacity....and that includes you.

Ron
Ron & Sandie
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Toad: 2011 GMC Terrain SLT2
Tow Bar: Sterling AT
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TPMS: Pressure Pro
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campigloo
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The weight on the receiver is what is loaded directly on it; things like batteries, propane tanks etc. that are on the trailer or part of the hitch. Things in the bed of the truck count against payload but not receiver weight.