Weight

mkirsch wrote:
You could put two RZRs in the bed if they'd fit and still have plenty of payload capacity to tow your trailer even if it weighs 7700lbs and has a high tongue weight.

So why did you say the trailer weighed 7700 when you hadn't even weighed it yet?

I got that from the brochure. 4715 I assume the dry weight. I can add 3038 in cargo,water, propane. The 453 t/w must be dry.
I will run it across the scales this weekend.
Thanks for all the help.
Jim

Well 4715 dry will be approx. 5900 lbs loaded for a trip. With that number you want to end up with 12.5% tongue weight which would be around 750lbs. I wouldn't think a manuf would ship a trailer with less than 10% tongue weight? But then again most don't care either.

Either way you'll be fine!

You could put two RZRs in the bed if they'd fit and still have plenty of payload capacity to tow your trailer even if it weighs 7700lbs and has a high tongue weight.

So why did you say the trailer weighed 7700 when you hadn't even weighed it yet?

I haul my RZR in the PU while towing the TH occasionally. No problem.

Weight wise you should be fine. Depending on which tires you have on the rzr you might have difficulty closing the tailgate. Also, be careful with the tailgate when loading the rzr. The cables that hold it on aren't strong enough and could break, and there is also a chance you could bow the tailgate. You'll want to use ramps that take some of the load while loading it up there.

Thanks
Jim

odis wrote:
When I look up the specs on the trailer it says dry 4715. Payload cap 3038. Hitch wt 453. I have not weighed the camper. 2013 surveyor sport 220.
The truck payload is 4032. Max tow 17350.2013 ram 3500 reg cab long bed swd cummins.
The razor weight is 1150. Me the wife and dog another 300.
I have not towed this set up. I have tested the razor in the bed and that is fine.
Thanks
Jim

That 453 tongue weight, is dry (empty) tongue weight. That was before the dealer added propane / battery / options, and before the end user loaded it for camping. All of those things increase tongue weight.

Tongue weight is not a constant number. It goes up as the normal dishes / bedding / camping gear get loaded. It goes up and down during every camping trip. Camping loads change, groceries and water get loaded and used up, holding tanks get filled and emptied.

Average loaded tongue weight runs 12 - 13 percent of loaded trailer weight.

Your actual loaded tongue weight probably is closer to 1000 lbs. However, your truck should have enough payload to handle that and your Rzr.

Your 3500 SRW Ram has a 7000 RAWR. These trucks can weigh in the 3000 lb range on the rear axle leaving you with a 4000 lb load capacity.

That small trailer may have a 600-700 lb hitch weight after loading plus your 1150 lb Rzr = 1850 lbs.
Load it up and go RV'n.

I won't tell anyone their combo is safe...too many other considerations.

Anyways.....enjoy the rig.

You should be fine, even with trailer at capacity.

Have a fun time!

Jerry

When I look up the specs on the trailer it says dry 4715. Payload cap 3038. Hitch wt 453. I have not weighed the camper. 2013 surveyor sport 220.
The truck payload is 4032. Max tow 17350.2013 ram 3500 reg cab long bed swd cummins.
The razor weight is 1150. Me the wife and dog another 300.
I have not towed this set up. I have tested the razor in the bed and that is fine.
Thanks
Jim