Honda eu1000i oil alert comes on, oil is full

[mkirsch]

When my CaseIH generator quit last night (see other thread), I got out my trusty Honda eu1000i to run the lights and TV until bedtime. It ran fine.

However, this morning when went to start it, it would only run for 30 seconds, then the oil alert light came on and it quit. Checked the oil. Full. Tried it again. Ran 30 seconds, oil light, and quit. Checked the oil. Still full. Runs 30 seconds, oil light, and quit. Hmm...

That's when I went and got my test tank and got the big CaseIH running again.

Any ideas why my trusty little Honda has now decided to join the ranks of the unreliable Chinese knock-offs?

[Boon_Docker]

fj12ryder wrote:

road-runner wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
He may have, but not to my knowledge. I've seen one post, and I'm hardly going to take him at his word with one post. Like I said, it takes research to separate the wheat from the chaff.

May I then respectively suggest that you do the research *before* questioning someone? That's what I did before challenging the information in the link you posted. To back that up, I have over 10 years of learning about the eu-series, and Robert as an employee of Honda needs to be assumed to be a credible source unless proven otherwise. Seriously, with 15 minutes and a search engine, or looking through the Owner's Manual, you could have verified the info in the link you posted as grossly incorrect. I even gave you a link to the Owner's Manual and a page number. Did you look at it?

Did you actually read the post you're supposedly referring to? I posted a link that sounded reasonable, and mentioned that it sounded reasonable. Where oh where did I challenge anything? And that link I posted was found after about 15 minutes and a search engine, as was the other link I posted about it being a pressurized system. So go take a hike, jack. Did you notice I said nothing about it's factualness, I said, and I quote: "This seems possible." I don't know you from Adam's off ox so excuse me if I don't fall over in a dead faint with your posts and their wealth of knowledge. Geeze.

Do a little reading and you'll notice that I said "That's the problem with internet: it's impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff without a lot of research." As far as I know, you're more chaff than wheat.

"To back that up, I have over 10 years of learning about the eu-series, and Robert as an employee of Honda needs to be assumed to be a credible source unless proven otherwise." And I'm supposed to take this on blind faith, hmm, sounds like that other guy whose link I posted. He sounded like he knew what he was taking about too. Oh, but you're telling the truth, and he's not. Okaaaay.

Someone needs a couple of Valium. :B

[road-runner]

It's difficult for me to let go, but for the benefit of the forum I'm withdrawing from this peeing contest without further comment.

[fj12ryder]

road-runner wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
He may have, but not to my knowledge. I've seen one post, and I'm hardly going to take him at his word with one post. Like I said, it takes research to separate the wheat from the chaff.

May I then respectively suggest that you do the research *before* questioning someone? That's what I did before challenging the information in the link you posted. To back that up, I have over 10 years of learning about the eu-series, and Robert as an employee of Honda needs to be assumed to be a credible source unless proven otherwise. Seriously, with 15 minutes and a search engine, or looking through the Owner's Manual, you could have verified the info in the link you posted as grossly incorrect. I even gave you a link to the Owner's Manual and a page number. Did you look at it?

Did you actually read the post you're supposedly referring to? I posted a link that sounded reasonable, and mentioned that it sounded reasonable. Where oh where did I challenge anything? And that link I posted was found after about 15 minutes and a search engine, as was the other link I posted about it being a pressurized system. So go take a hike, jack. Did you notice I said nothing about it's factualness, I said, and I quote: "This seems possible." I don't know you from Adam's off ox so excuse me if I don't fall over in a dead faint with your posts and their wealth of knowledge. Geeze.

Do a little reading and you'll notice that I said "That's the problem with internet: it's impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff without a lot of research." As far as I know, you're more chaff than wheat.

"To back that up, I have over 10 years of learning about the eu-series, and Robert as an employee of Honda needs to be assumed to be a credible source unless proven otherwise." And I'm supposed to take this on blind faith, hmm, sounds like that other guy whose link I posted. He sounded like he knew what he was taking about too. Oh, but you're telling the truth, and he's not. Okaaaay.

[Thunder_Mountai]

That is exactly what happened to me last September at Taylor Park, CO. The air temp was about 18 degrees. First time this had happened. Had previously started them at upper 20s to low 30s. Just kept starting them until they kept running.

[road-runner]

fj12ryder wrote:
He may have, but not to my knowledge. I've seen one post, and I'm hardly going to take him at his word with one post. Like I said, it takes research to separate the wheat from the chaff.

May I then respectively suggest that you do the research *before* questioning someone? That's what I did before challenging the information in the link you posted. To back that up, I have over 10 years of learning about the eu-series, and Robert as an employee of Honda needs to be assumed to be a credible source unless proven otherwise. Seriously, with 15 minutes and a search engine, or looking through the Owner's Manual, you could have verified the info in the link you posted as grossly incorrect. I even gave you a link to the Owner's Manual and a page number. Did you look at it?

[gkainz]

I guess experience on the boards counts for something so, yeah, a new guy wouldn't know it. But I'll vouch for Robert - track record of knowledgeable posts and helpful responses. Robert gets my 2 thumbs up.

oh, and just to put my response on topic - I'll chime in with a "me, too" for getting an oil level shut down if my 2000 is slightly off-level.

[fj12ryder]

He may have, but not to my knowledge. I've seen one post, and I'm hardly going to take him at his word with one post. Like I said, it takes research to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[road-runner]

How about because he has a track record of correct answers?

[fj12ryder]

It's pretty obvious that the Honda uses a splash oil system now that everyone has weighed in on the subject.

But really HondaRobert, why should a person give more weight to your post than the guy who says it's a pressurized system? That's the problem with internet: it's impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff without a lot of research. Everyone's post has equal possibilities.

[robert_at_honda]

Honda guy here...some facts:

The engine oil / lubrication system in both the EU1000i and EU2000i is a splash / connecting-rod dipper design. It is NOT pressurized.

The Oil Alert system is just a simple float in the crankcase that signals the engine control computer and shuts down the engine if the level gets too low.

Oil Alert is implemented on all current Honda generator models.

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Caveat: I work for Honda, but the preceding is my opinion alone.

[dieseltruckdriv]

Another reason to add a little more oil instead of fighting it.
Our group has about 10 years experience with these generators save one, and in cold weather we don't do anything any different and they always keep us warm and watching tv. 😉

[ktmrfs]

I camp with other campers with honda 2000's and 1000's. In cold weather, when it gets below about 40F the low oil level thing is pretty much the normal when we start the generators in the morning. the colder it is, the more time we need to restart.

[2oldman]

That's why this is a discussion board, not a knowledge resource.

[road-runner]

Can't believe anything on the Internet without confirming it. If you look at the forum posts from about 10 to 12 years ago you'll find some of them confidently declaring that the eu-series output is two 60 volt "legs" with respect to generator ground. This was the "fact" concluded from measuring the output with a high impedance meter combined with no knowledge of inductive and capacitive coupling, or that a load was required to get a correct measurement. I haven't read this fact for years so it's hopefully dead. Another claim was that connecting one of the 120 volt outputs to generator ground would burn something out. I believe that one has been firmly debunked. I've seen more incorrect statements on this forum about inverter generators than pretty much anything else. I suspect dougrainer has seen 100x more incorrect facts than most of us have because he's had exposure to just about every rv system and accessory that exists.