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- Quick. Lock those up, chain them down, or secure them in some way. I can see the legs growing on them as I write!
Chum lee - I see they are still proud price wise....$$1,149.95 MSRP. 2 Champs or 3 Preds.. Ouch.
The one thing I have never liked about the Honda (or the Yamaha or the Pred or any of the smaller units) except the Champ is the shape I want a unit that is box shaped so it's easy to store, the primary reason I bought the Champ over the others. Price was my last consideration.
Don't get me wrong, I like Honda's I have a couple of their quads and a tiller but the genny's, not for me. With portable genny's, I like square and boxy, not swoopy. Tyhe 3K watt open cradle is one I like but I don't need that much output. I had Yamaha 2800I for about 12 years but sold it. Was time. Electronics, like bread, gets stale after a time...lol - one thing I noticed is that the 2200W version is 53db at idle, but 62 vs 59 db at full load. not much difference, but is slightly louder than the existing 2000.
But the list price seems to be the same as the 2000. List price on the 2000 is 1149, even though most every dealer has them on a "special" at around 950 most all the time.
I do like the increased power and the fuel shutoff.
and the extra 200w may make the difference between "almost adequate" and "barely adequate" in some cases. Like my 2000 at 4500ft running the AC with the micro air easy start. Starts right up but eventually will overload.
But the - For many years my complaint against Honda (Well the biggest one) has been that I need a 1,000 watt generator, not a 1,000 PEAK. if they come out with an 1100. that might work for me.. (Just enough to power my converter).
SidecarFlip wrote:
I see they are still proud price wise....$$1,149.95 MSRP. 2 Champs or 3 Preds.. Ouch.
The best gets better but predictably there will always be those who whine about price. :R Regardless, Honda will no doubt sell every new EU2200i produced to a willing market looking for a quality genset that maintained properly will reliably serve it's purpose for thousands of hours. :B- With so many right on the edge of running the air conditioner this with an extra 10% might just be the ticket and save some from buying the second generator.
- That 2200i spec for it's noise at full power (62 dB) - an increase over that for the 2000i - is NOT insignificant!
What would have been a really outstanding engineering coup for Honda would have been if they could have kept it's maximum power level noise no greater than that for the 2000i -> 59 dB. Note that the common RV 4000 watt Onan built-in gas generator has a noise spec of around 66 dB "out in the open" as delivered .... but of course they are enclosed inside RV cabinets which can make them considerably quieter than 66 dB, as heard from the outside .... probably well below 59 dB in most RV installations.
Honda did keep it's weight about the same as the 2000i, however ... which is commendable. SoundGuy wrote:
SidecarFlip wrote:
I see they are still proud price wise....$$1,149.95 MSRP. 2 Champs or 3 Preds.. Ouch.
The best gets better but predictably there will always be those who whine about price. :R Regardless, Honda will no doubt sell every new EU2200i produced to a willing market looking for a quality genset that maintained properly will reliably serve it's purpose for thousands of hours. :B
I don't whine bud. Just stating the price versus the competition. If you had bothered to read my comment, you'll see I own a couple Honda products. Have no issue with a Honda product. I have an issue with the price versus the competition.
It's not a genset anyway. A genset is a stationary or wheeled generator for emergency or standby power generation. It is...a portable recreational generator for ocassional use.- At least Honda offered a token 200 watt bump. Yamaha doesn't claim any increase with their v2 inverter, just that new software will handle more demanding loads.
- Perhaps this is the only way Honda can remain competitive in a market where generators sell for hundreds of dollars less.
Personally, I would consider an improved Honda to be one that is at a price point where I could actually feel good about spending that amount of money.
Rather than lower their price, they add some watts. That's fine. I'm sure the Honda club members will be happy. It doesn't make a convert out of me.
