2019 coleman 264RL tire pressure?

[ncladfw3]

The placard on the side is weathered and I can't read the psi. It's not in the manual either. Anyone know the correct psi for coleman 264RL? I read I shouldn't go by what is on the tire. Tires are currently at 40psi which seems low.

[Sandia_Man]

ST tires are not to be filled based on weight as you would on passenger and LT tires, they perform best at max psi and that is the way we filled our ST tires for 3 decades of towing fifth wheels and travel trailers. With all the issues online and on forums about ST tires, we NEVER had a blowout across 4 different RVs and roughly 100K mile across the 30 year span. Below excerpt is from Tire Track website.

Special Trailer (ST) Tire Maintenance
Allowing inflation pressure to drop can dangerously overload a trailer tire, resulting in excessive heat buildup and possibly a blowout. And while not always resulting in immediate tire failure, even a short period of operating a significantly under-inflated trailer tire can cause hidden internal structural damage that can result in tire failure. Tire load capacity is reduced while tread/sidewall deflection and heat buildup are increased anytime a tire is operated without enough inflation pressure to carry its load. The chance of failure greatly increases if trailer tires are underinflated or overloaded.

[mowermech]

You could always use the redneck/jack-pine savage method of finding correct tire pressures:
1. Load the vehicle to the "normal" load usually carried.
2. On a hard, dry, flat surface make some chalk marks across the tire tread.
3. Drive the vehicle for a hundred yards or so.
4. Check the chalk marks for wear:
a. If the marks are gone, the tire is properly inflated for the present load.
b. If the marks are worn away in the center, the tire is over inflated.
c. If the marks are worn away on the edges, the tire is under inflated.

NOTE: This method works for all on-road vehicles, and should be done with the tires cold.

[Grit_dog]

Put 65 psi in the tires and let ‘er rip!

[Grit_dog]

jadatis wrote:

ncladfw3 wrote:
Thanks for the replies. I got some more information off the tires:

- ST205/75/R15
- LH-001 (Maybe a Model# ?)
- 8PR 107/102L Load Range D
- Max Load Dual 850kg (1870lbs) at 450KPa (65PSI) COLD


It is a dual axle travel trailer, 6150lbs dry weight.

I'll probably try 65psi.

Do you mean by dual axle, 1 axle with 4 tire on it(verry unusuall, but they exist) , or tandem axle so 2 axles with each 2 tires on them.

And can you still read the GVWR and GAWR('s)
( Gross Axle/Vehicle Weight Rating)

Lol, what do you think?

[Grit_dog]

^Thats TMI for the OP. He found the max psi rating on the tire. That’s good enough for him….
And you are overcomplicating it.

[jadatis]

Dry weight then, with 10% (minimum to law) on towbar, would need 45 psi, but you need the weights fully loaded.
1000 lbs lugage is minimum I think, wich brings it already closer to 65 psi.

Sorry for the typing errors, editing in this forum leads to lost post for me.

[jadatis]

Then I made a list with on front of psi 90% of 1 axle, and behind thebpsi for the tandem so 4 tires.
Single load used, because that is usuall on tandem.

Normaly I would substact 6 loadindex steps from ST, because maxload given for 65mph, even if L speedrated given.
But found out this is only for the larger sizes, not done for your size.

And I have a paper list from Michelin, got it from them 10 years ago, when they did not knew I was the mole.
It gives the Agillis 81 R speedrated, 205/70R15 106/104R, so that /75 instead of 70 would explain the 1 loadindexstep higher, and that tire is given maxload for 160kmph/99mph.
I once determined by reactions about screws trembling loose, that 80% using of loadcapacity calculated for the pressure, gives a deflection that wont tremble srews loose.
So 90% used makes weightdifference possible R/L on the axle.

Now you "ONLY" have to determine the axleloads or tandemload 99% acurate,the mist tricky part, and your responcibility, and search back in my made list, and use that pressure.
So dont add reserves or devide by 4 or 2, all done for you.

If you ever weigh per axle-end, I can make a new list for 95% used of 1 tires loadcapacity for the pressure, in wich you then search the heavyest tire back of the tandem. Then hope the others wont go below 80%.

Axleload/cold psi/ Tandemload
1625 lbs/ 25 psi / 3250 lbs
1740 lbs/ 27 psi / 3480 lbs
1855 lbs/ 29 psi / 3710 lbs
1969 lbs/ 31 psi / 3938 lbs
2083 lbs/ 33 psi / 4166 lbs
2197 lbs/ 35 psi / 4394 lbs
2310 lbs/ 37 psi / 4620 lbs
2423 lbs/ 39 psi / 4846 lbs
2535 lbs/ 41 psi / 5071 lbs
2648 lbs/ 43 psi / 5296 lbs
2760 lbs/ 45 psi / 5521 lbs
2872 lbs/ 47 psi / 5744 lbs
2984 lbs/ 49 psi / 5968 lbs
3095 lbs/ 51 psi / 6191 lbs
3206 lbs/ 53 psi / 6413 lbs
3317 lbs/ 55 psi / 6635 lbs
3428 lbs/ 57 psi / 6857 lbs
3539 lbs/ 59 psi / 7078 lbs
3649 lbs/ 61 psi / 7299 lbs
3759 lbs/ 63 psi / 7519 lbs
3870 lbs/ 65 psi / 7740 lbs/ maxloadpressure
3979 lbs/ 67 psi / 7959 lbs
4089 lbs/ 69 psi / 8179 lbs
4199 lbs/ 71 psi / 8398 lbs
4308 lbs/ 73 psi / 8617 lbs
4417 lbs/ 75 psi / 8835 lbs

[valhalla360]

ncladfw3 wrote:
Sorry, 2 axles with 2 tires on each axle.

No worries. It was a silly question. No one thought you were running duallies on a small trailer.

Also, it's perfectly normal and acceptable for the manufacturer to provide tires that match the axle ratings.

Going with the 65psi from the tire sidewall is probably the best bet based on the size of the trailer. If you are still concerned, you might swing by a CAT scale and get the real weights.

[ncladfw3]

Sorry, 2 axles with 2 tires on each axle.

[JIMNLIN]

- ST205/75/R15
- LH-001 (Maybe a Model# ?)
- 8PR 107/102L Load Range D
- Max Load Dual 850kg (1870lbs) at 450KPa (65PSI) COLD


It is a dual axle travel trailer, 6150lbs dry weight.

I'll probably try 65psi.

65 psi is the best idea for a cooler longer lasting tire.
Those minimum pressures for the load charts work best for cars/trucks/suvs with tires at the front and rear corners.
Your tandem axle trailer tires are set close spaced and towards the center of the vehicle. They side scrub on every turn. Higher pressures helps hold the tires carcass and tread belts together as the tire side scrub on turns.

JFY...the "max load dual" indicates the tire capacity when used in a dual position as in dual on a truck (side by side).

Your trailer is a tandem axle and uses the higher 2040 lb tire capacity at the same 65 psi.

check out Tireman9 https://www.rvtiresafety.net/2018/02/tire-inflation-not-same-for-all-trailers.html
As a actual tire engineer he has the knowledge and experience to explain why different tire pressures are used our trucks vs our trailers. Day of reading on tires for our different rv type vehicles.

[jadatis]

ncladfw3 wrote:
Thanks for the replies. I got some more information off the tires:

- ST205/75/R15
- LH-001 (Maybe a Model# ?)
- 8PR 107/102L Load Range D
- Max Load Dual 850kg (1870lbs) at 450KPa (65PSI) COLD


It is a dual axle travel trailer, 6150lbs dry weight.

I'll probably try 65psi.

Do you mean by dual axle, 1 axle with 4 tire on it(verry unusuall, but they exist) , or tandem axle so 2 axles with each 2 tires on them.

And can you still read the GVWR and GAWR('s)
( Gross Axle/Vehicle Weight Rating)

[MFL]

That size trailer, size tires, they will absolutely run coolest, trailer handle best at 65 psi.

With the scrub/flex of ST special trailer tires, especially on tandem axles, the sidewalls get their strength from air pressure, to keep sway at a minimum.

I'm sure your placard, if visible, would indicate 65 psi.

Jerry

[ncladfw3]

Thanks for the replies. I got some more information off the tires:

- ST205/75/R15
- LH-001 (Maybe a Model# ?)
- 8PR 107/102L Load Range D
- Max Load Dual 850kg (1870lbs) at 450KPa (65PSI) COLD


It is a dual axle travel trailer, 6150lbs dry weight.

I'll probably try 65psi.

[QCMan]

There is no reason to follow what is on the tire. The internet has all you need to have. I can't understand why people even read or are concerned about the manufacturers instructions when there are so many experts out there that know better. Today's reality. Scary!

[jadatis]

Then you should start from the basic data.
That is GAWR's and GVWR.but better is to weigh fully loaded(also the persons), per axle, better even per axle-end.

Then I can make a customised pressure/loadcapacity list for your tires, with build in reserves and per axle single or dual or per tire given,so you dont need to do precalculations before looking back in officiall lists.

The recomended pressure you cant read now, is calculated for GAWR with no reserve.

Need from tires next.
1. maximum load or LOADINDEX.
2. kind of tire to determine the maxloadpressure, but if AT xxx psi is given on sidewall, thats what I need. Loadrange is a system to give AT pressure.
3, speedcode, less important.
4. If ST