mich800 wrote:
Devils advocate. If it is always the dealer trying to screw someone, where does the high NADA come from if no one is purchasing for this imaginary average high value.
There are people paying high NADA.
Some are trading in, and the dealer is inflating the new price so he can give the buyer a higher trade in value.
Some are buying at this price because the dealer can provide financing that a bank won't.
Some are paying way, way too much. These people get seriously, seriously underwater on their unit. You can see these people when they try to sell their unit in a couple of years and their used price is much higher than what the wholesale-dealerships will sell you a new unit for.