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Ace_
Nov 23, 2008Explorer
I know it's your last comment on the subject, but I've linked the article here
Shootout. You can then read through each subsequent portion of the shootout, to include 3/4, 1-ton, squat test, 1/4 mile "drags", 1/4 mile 7% grade, and 1/8 mile 15% grades, unloaded and loaded with 10,500 lbs. I don't expect or need a response.
You can read it if you'd like, or not, it's just for your information (I'm not promoting one truck or the other, the article, or the website from which it came, only providing a link for you to either read or not, please do not judge me or the truck I drive for providing this link). I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, but because it appeared you commented on the article without reading it, I thought I should share it. Also, just to comment on your post about rpm, it's supposed to be different between gas and diesel trucks, due to the design of the engine, to expect otherwise is ignorance. One should be pulling around 2k rpm and the other should be pulling in the 4k range (the V10 pulls best in the 4k range), but it's due to the design of the engine, not whether one is better or not because it pulls in a lower rpm. So, no one with a gas engine "should try that" with a V10. It makes no sense, like saying, you should try pulling your load at 5200rpm with your diesel, it just plain makes no sense, because it's not how the diesel was designed (you probably have a rev-limiter that keeps the diesel from even going to an rpm such as where the V10 revs, doesn't mean it isn't a good truck though). If people were to base their decision(s) on something like that we could dismiss the diesel as viable because it tops out way earlier than the V10, again, just makes no sense to talk like that, it's ignorant of the design of the engines.
Enjoy your diesel, and I'll enjoy my truck(s), whether they have an engine of any design, or not. I hope, if you read the article, that you take something positive away from it. Also, if you want to hook your trailer up to my truck and buy some gas you can. It may be enlightening, but maybe it wouldn't.
Edited to add: I'm sorry I don't have a 5th wheel hitch (forgot your's was a 5th wheel), so I guess you can drive my truck with a rented trailer if you'd like. Also, I saw you posted this, "You can't haul an 11,000 lb. 5th wheel, without being overweight, with a gasser. Torque is power and torque costs money. Comparing a diesel to a gasser is like comparing a piper cub to a 747." Just as an FYI, a 2005 SRW F250 4x4 gas truck is rated to haul a 16,000 5th wheel, the same diesel is rated to pull a 15,800lb 5th wheel (the gas F350 has a 16,500 rating, diesel still 15,800). So, I'm not sure what you meant about the 11k pound 5th wheel making a gas truck overweight...or were you talking about a particular brand (Chevy, Dodge?)? Also, a gas truck will "typically" have a higher payload than a diesel truck due to the extra weight of the engine over a similarly equipped gas truck (this is based on Ford trucks, so your Dodge may be different).
Shootout. You can then read through each subsequent portion of the shootout, to include 3/4, 1-ton, squat test, 1/4 mile "drags", 1/4 mile 7% grade, and 1/8 mile 15% grades, unloaded and loaded with 10,500 lbs. I don't expect or need a response.
You can read it if you'd like, or not, it's just for your information (I'm not promoting one truck or the other, the article, or the website from which it came, only providing a link for you to either read or not, please do not judge me or the truck I drive for providing this link). I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, but because it appeared you commented on the article without reading it, I thought I should share it. Also, just to comment on your post about rpm, it's supposed to be different between gas and diesel trucks, due to the design of the engine, to expect otherwise is ignorance. One should be pulling around 2k rpm and the other should be pulling in the 4k range (the V10 pulls best in the 4k range), but it's due to the design of the engine, not whether one is better or not because it pulls in a lower rpm. So, no one with a gas engine "should try that" with a V10. It makes no sense, like saying, you should try pulling your load at 5200rpm with your diesel, it just plain makes no sense, because it's not how the diesel was designed (you probably have a rev-limiter that keeps the diesel from even going to an rpm such as where the V10 revs, doesn't mean it isn't a good truck though). If people were to base their decision(s) on something like that we could dismiss the diesel as viable because it tops out way earlier than the V10, again, just makes no sense to talk like that, it's ignorant of the design of the engines.
Enjoy your diesel, and I'll enjoy my truck(s), whether they have an engine of any design, or not. I hope, if you read the article, that you take something positive away from it. Also, if you want to hook your trailer up to my truck and buy some gas you can. It may be enlightening, but maybe it wouldn't.
Edited to add: I'm sorry I don't have a 5th wheel hitch (forgot your's was a 5th wheel), so I guess you can drive my truck with a rented trailer if you'd like. Also, I saw you posted this, "You can't haul an 11,000 lb. 5th wheel, without being overweight, with a gasser. Torque is power and torque costs money. Comparing a diesel to a gasser is like comparing a piper cub to a 747." Just as an FYI, a 2005 SRW F250 4x4 gas truck is rated to haul a 16,000 5th wheel, the same diesel is rated to pull a 15,800lb 5th wheel (the gas F350 has a 16,500 rating, diesel still 15,800). So, I'm not sure what you meant about the 11k pound 5th wheel making a gas truck overweight...or were you talking about a particular brand (Chevy, Dodge?)? Also, a gas truck will "typically" have a higher payload than a diesel truck due to the extra weight of the engine over a similarly equipped gas truck (this is based on Ford trucks, so your Dodge may be different).
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