Diesel vs gas......................
OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diese...
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Yahooligan,
You are entirely correct. If Biggziff had read back further in the thread, he would have discovered posts describing the commutes of my wife and I. Hers is 19.5 miles one-way on county roads with 19 full stops, and a maximum run of 5 minutes between full stops during which she might get up to 55 mph. Her one-way commute time averages 35 minues.
My commute is 12.5 miles one way with 14 full stops and a six mile run on a freeway. My average one-way commute time is 25 minutes.
I.e., neither of our daily commutes would engage the DPF, and any diesel tow vehicle we'd get (we won't buy new) would be in perpetual limp mode save for summers and a week or two after Easter.
We'll use the truck for towing a 5th wheel for two 2-week and two 1-week vacations each year, plus some long weekends. All but one 1-week vacation would be in the same ten week period every summer when my wife is not teaching high school, and the odd one-week trip would be the week after Easter which she also has off.
It makes much more sense for us to get a used Ford F-250 with a V-10 gasoline engine and use that to tow a smaller 5th wheel (12,000 - 13,000 GVWR - Crossroads Cruiser or K-Z Durango 2500 are the most likely) until we retire in 5-6 years. Then we'll rv part-time with a full-size 5th wheel and diesel dually, and not have to use the diesel tow vehicle for commutinig.
You are entirely correct. If Biggziff had read back further in the thread, he would have discovered posts describing the commutes of my wife and I. Hers is 19.5 miles one-way on county roads with 19 full stops, and a maximum run of 5 minutes between full stops during which she might get up to 55 mph. Her one-way commute time averages 35 minues.
My commute is 12.5 miles one way with 14 full stops and a six mile run on a freeway. My average one-way commute time is 25 minutes.
I.e., neither of our daily commutes would engage the DPF, and any diesel tow vehicle we'd get (we won't buy new) would be in perpetual limp mode save for summers and a week or two after Easter.
We'll use the truck for towing a 5th wheel for two 2-week and two 1-week vacations each year, plus some long weekends. All but one 1-week vacation would be in the same ten week period every summer when my wife is not teaching high school, and the odd one-week trip would be the week after Easter which she also has off.
It makes much more sense for us to get a used Ford F-250 with a V-10 gasoline engine and use that to tow a smaller 5th wheel (12,000 - 13,000 GVWR - Crossroads Cruiser or K-Z Durango 2500 are the most likely) until we retire in 5-6 years. Then we'll rv part-time with a full-size 5th wheel and diesel dually, and not have to use the diesel tow vehicle for commutinig.
Yahooligan wrote:Biggziff wrote:
That's just nonsense. There is no way Ford would produce a truck that is only designed for long haul.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious, but NONE of the big 3 diesels that have a DPF and don't use DEF are really suitable for around-town or short trip (Less than 30 miles or so) because of the DPF. If you don't get it out on the highway for a stretch then the DPF regen will never happen and the DPF will become full, putting you in limp mode and directing you to visit your dealer for service.
Even without the DPF I wouldn't buy a diesel if it would be subjected to 90% around town/short trip driving and 10% towing/highway. It'd never get up to temp and you'd end up with more headaches than if you used the truck like it was meant to be used. These are not the same engines and emissions systems that are used in FedEx and UPS trucks.
