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Carhlr
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Well other than have the wrong Bars(800lb) how does my set up look? I'm calling rv dealer tomorrow and having him get me 1200lb bars and dual cam system. I have one friction sway bar now and was thinking of adding one to the other side but after obsessing about this for the last 24 hours I think it's the only way to go. I really cant stress how impressed I am with this truck. There is NO comparison to any other 1/2 ton ive ever owned. 2014 f150 supercrew 3.5 v6 ecoboost Max tow 4x4 145wb 1864 payload. I have yet to hit a CAT scale but I will be doing that soon and posting numbers. I'd also like to thank all of you for the wealth of information here it's been a great deal of help.
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CampingN_C_
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"Looks" good in the picture. However, I bet you could drop/add 1-2 chain links and that picture would look the same, especially from a distance.
Point is, how does it feel???
I was transferring too much weight when I brought ours home, pulled over and dropped a link and it made a HUGE difference! Still looked the same!
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Bob_Landry
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fla-gypsy wrote:
Bob Landry wrote:
If the OP is asking if it looks right, basing it on the truck and trailer both being level, yes it looks "right". However, having towed a heavy rig with a Tundra, I would like to know what the front fender height it both unhitched and hitched. The Tundra manual says to return the front to the original height with no reference at all to the rear. If he used the WD to just to get the truck to sit level, then the front axle is likely overloaded, and that would not be right. Too many people think the purpose of WD is to level the TV and that's not it at all.


The Ford does not have the same requirement for restoring weight on the front (Ford minimum is 1/2) as your Tundra. His truck has a payload of 1800+ lbs. His trailer is 6600# dry with a GVWR of 9525#. It is very unlikely he will add 3k to the trailer but even if he did the TW would max out around 1200# still leaving 600# for passengers, etc. His F-150 EB (Max Tow) is not your Tundra. He has matched it up pretty good for a 1/2 ton and larger TT.


I said having towed with a Tundra, not towing with one now and his picture at first looked like the Tundra, not the EB F150, so that was my mistake. My point is/was , the same as TerryAllen's, that is not knowing any weights or measurements, I question how everyone can say it looks "right" with only a photo of the truck and trailer. The truck is still a F150, and there should be some noticeable squat in the rear of the truck even with properly adjusted bars. With no indication of that, I had to ask, and still have to ask, was the WD used only to level the truck and the weight returned to the front axle, with no mention of payload or towing capacity numbers. Obviously, unlike many members on this forum, my eye is not calibrated to the degree necessary to make that determination from a photo. That is why I said, if the only factor was the truck being level, it looked right..
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Terryallan
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Haven't seen any weights posted by the OP. however the TT appears to be a 280OBS. With a GVWR of 7630lbs, OR a S290DBS with a GVWR of 7555lbs. IMOP, 1200lb bars will be too much. And bars that are too strong, are just as dangerous as bars that are too weak. I'd stay with the 800lb bars, and no higher than 1000lb bars. Is a better fit. Remember, You aren't moving all of it, just part of it. WHO told you your bars were too lite?

For example, if the weight distribution system has a 1,000 pound (454 kilogram) tongue weight capacity but the trailer is loaded with only 300 pounds (136 kilograms) of tongue weight with 50 pounds (23 kilograms) of cargo in the trunk of the towing vehicle, you're about 650 pounds (295 kilograms) under the rating. That can make the distribution unpredictable and dangerous. On the other hand, if the system is rated to 1,000 pounds (454 kilograms) of tongue weight but you're attempting to distribute 1,500 pounds (680 kilograms) of tongue weight, the system won't be able to distribute the weight effectively and you'll also have some serious problems. Keep that infamous rule from "The Price Is Right" in mind when choosing a weight distribution system -- you want to bid the closest without going over.
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fla-gypsy
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Bob Landry wrote:
If the OP is asking if it looks right, basing it on the truck and trailer both being level, yes it looks "right". However, having towed a heavy rig with a Tundra, I would like to know what the front fender height it both unhitched and hitched. The Tundra manual says to return the front to the original height with no reference at all to the rear. If he used the WD to just to get the truck to sit level, then the front axle is likely overloaded, and that would not be right. Too many people think the purpose of WD is to level the TV and that's not it at all.


The Ford does not have the same requirement for restoring weight on the front (Ford minimum is 1/2) as your Tundra. His truck has a payload of 1800+ lbs. His trailer is 6600# dry with a GVWR of 9525#. It is very unlikely he will add 3k to the trailer but even if he did the TW would max out around 1200# still leaving 600# for passengers, etc. His F-150 EB (Max Tow) is not your Tundra. He has matched it up pretty good for a 1/2 ton and larger TT.
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goducks10
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Bob_Landry
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If the OP is asking if it looks right, basing it on the truck and trailer both being level, yes it looks "right". However, having towed a heavy rig with a Tundra, I would like to know what the front fender height it both unhitched and hitched. The Tundra manual says to return the front to the original height with no reference at all to the rear. If he used the WD to just to get the truck to sit level, then the front axle is likely overloaded, and that would not be right. Too many people think the purpose of WD is to level the TV and that's not it at all.
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Dick_B
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The photo looks good but I wonder if the load is too much for a 1/2 T truck?
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Hannibal
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Beautiful truck and TT! I'm with you about obsessing over details. I've read nothing but good things about the Reese Dual Cam setup. If it prevents migraines it's worth every penny.
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dodge_guy
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larry_kruzan wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Looks good to me. If anything I like to have a little bit of tilt to the front for a conventional trailer.


Why??

If the TT is level the load on the tires is even. If you're nose low the front springs and tires are being loaded heavy. It will lead to the front tires running hot on a long pull


It doesn't matter. The equalizer bracket is there to "equalize" the load. Both axles will always have equal weight. Now on a trailer with torsion independent axles, thise need to be level!
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Francesca_Knowl
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Absent a sway-controlling w/d system and presuming speeds above 55: second friction-type sway bar is SOP for any trailer longer than twenty feet...and I'm pretty sure this one is.
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fla-gypsy
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I agree it looks great and the addition of the Dual Cam and proper size bars will make towing stress free.
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jerem0621
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I recommend the second sway bar for sure.

Before you go upgrading the bars you may want to invest in one of these.

It's a 5000 lb capacity weight scale that will allow you to actually measure the tongue weight before every tow.

You may find that your 800 lb bars are fine... You may also find that the 1200 lb bars are not enough.

Why the 5000 lb capacity...well it gives you the ability to weigh your future fiver's heavy pin weight....and it's only a few bucks more than the 2000 lb one.

Thanks!

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Terryallan
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Don't know how it could look any better. As for the bars. If they were too light. they would not level the TV, and TT. Also, once you get heavier bars, you will need to readjust the hitch, as they won't give as much, and the ride will stiffen considerably. Will need to loosen the bars
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larry_kruzan
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FishOnOne wrote:
Looks good to me. If anything I like to have a little bit of tilt to the front for a conventional trailer.


Why??

If the TT is level the load on the tires is even. If you're nose low the front springs and tires are being loaded heavy. It will lead to the front tires running hot on a long pull.

To the OP - Run it! looks great! If you run in areas where high cross winds are a problem, get the 1200lb bars. I've been hauling a similar weight TT for 4 years, about 1/2 time, 15-20k miles a year and only in the SW have I ever had winds ground us. 1000lb bars in my setup.
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e-light
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Looks fine but how does it pull? Take it on a good long run pref on a windy day to be sure. Crank that antisway bar down real tight if its windy. Looks like a good combo!
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