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- itguy08Explorer
johndeerefarmer wrote:
itguy08 wrote:
Try premium gas. Yes it's more expensive but I bet it fixes the timing issues (although I doubt they are issues) and helps me kiss 10MPG towing.
I always run premium. It wasn't the gas its the heat and Ford's CAC.
You did all you could then...
My 2011 has had the condensation issue (fixed with the updated CAC and programming) and I'd rather have it pull timing with negligible performance loss vs falling flat on its face when you need it. - johndeerefarmerExplorer III
itguy08 wrote:
Try premium gas. Yes it's more expensive but I bet it fixes the timing issues (although I doubt they are issues) and helps me kiss 10MPG towing.
I always run premium. It wasn't the gas its the heat and Ford's CAC. Go tow 6-7k in 107 degrees and come back and tell me what happened- that is if you even have a way to monitor timing and IAT's - seleExplorer
itguy08 wrote:
I only run premium when I am towing our fth wheel and your milage is about the same as minesele wrote:
the premium gas is recommended by Ford And the rear-end makes a huge difference in the way the truck handles towing
Yeah it's recommended when towing but they will run all day on 87. Put close to 3000 towing miles on last year all with 87. Hot, cold it didn't really matter. She just ran But the MPG was mostly sub 10 (7-10). I've done some experimenting with premium this year and it's 8-13 when towing. Unloaded MPG is really not much different at 16-19. But I have the 3.73's and 4x4 in a super crew so thats about average.
Gears do make a huge difference. Interesting that for 15+ Ford does max tow with 3.55 and 3.73 where 11-14 were 3.73 or 4.10 only for the max tow. - itguy08Explorer
sele wrote:
the premium gas is recommended by Ford And the rear-end makes a huge difference in the way the truck handles towing
Yeah it's recommended when towing but they will run all day on 87. Put close to 3000 towing miles on last year all with 87. Hot, cold it didn't really matter. She just ran But the MPG was mostly sub 10 (7-10). I've done some experimenting with premium this year and it's 8-13 when towing. Unloaded MPG is really not much different at 16-19. But I have the 3.73's and 4x4 in a super crew so thats about average.
Gears do make a huge difference. Interesting that for 15+ Ford does max tow with 3.55 and 3.73 where 11-14 were 3.73 or 4.10 only for the max tow. - MitchF150Explorer IIIOnly towing a #5000 TT with my 13 Eco and love it.. Not even close to it's limits and that's what makes it such a nice tow.
Max out any size rig, and it's gonna be a tougher tow than not maxing it out.. ;)
Sounds like you don't care for the new F150's and that's fine. I've not driven the new ones so no idea what the lighter weight feels like, but since they also lowered all the GVWR's on the 15+ trucks, It's all the same anyway, right?
My 13 has a #7700 GVWR and #1920 payload per the sticker. #4050 rear axle rating, etc... It's a Max Tow, but I think the 15+ Max Tows are lower weights than this, but they weigh less too, but is that a good thing in the end?
Dunno, because I've not driven one, much less towed with one.
Anyway, tow what you want with what you want and if it's good, it's good for you..
Mitch - boomersooner198Explorer
boomersooner1986 wrote:
2016 F150 3.5l V6 Ecoboost 4x4 with max towing package (max tow is 12,700). Towing a 2011 Coachmen Catalina 24FBS. About 27 feet in length and weighs in around 7,000 pounds. Just got home from Myrtle Beach today and it tows like nothing is behind it. However it seems to drink a little more gas than my 2010 4.6l V8 when towing.
Make that 10,700 on the max towing capability. - seleExplorerthe premium gas is recommended by Ford And the rear-end makes a huge difference in the way the truck handles towing
- itguy08ExplorerTry premium gas. Yes it's more expensive but I bet it fixes the timing issues (although I doubt they are issues) and helps me kiss 10MPG towing.
- johndeerefarmerExplorer IIII had a 2013 ecoboost with a 5 Star tune and Wagner intercooler that was a beast! I would tow everything including 15000 lbs of hay.
I got a 2016 ecoboost and after one trip to Colorado towing only 7k lbs am buying a new Super Duty. Going through NM with temperature 100+ the pcm was pulling 3 degrees of timing because IAT2 was so high! This robbed me of a lot of power. This is Ford's fault for putting in such a small intercooler. They did help to solve the condensation problem which it does help with because now the air is hotter. The downfall is for those that tow, the hot air just saps you of power!
I have towed my Reflection 29rs twice. It weighs about 10k lbs. I wasn't really impressed as it downshifts way more than my 13 did. This is partially because I have a 3.55 instead of 3.73 as in my previous truck but also due to the intercooler. - seleExplorerwe love our Eco boost towing our 5th wheel does an excellent job. We Have been doing this for 3 years know truck is a 2013 we bought in the spring of 2013. We have been through the Ozarks numerous times and handles it with no issue. The fth wheel is a 2004 hornet hitch weight at 1350 if I remember correctly.
Let me also say I wouldn't go any heavier than what we are currently and also it is just the wife and I so cargo weight is minimal some clothes and food maybe 10 gallons of water.
as you can see by the pic in our signature it sits level with no aftermarket add-ons.
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