F150 heavy duty payload

BenK wrote:

Fordlover wrote:

BenK wrote:
Know won't get much of a response, but curious why folks understand payload,
cargo, MTWR, etc as a NUMBER, but refuse to use the GVWR number and
only use marketing verbiage...like F150, 1500 half ton

There are over a dozen DIFFERENT F150's and ditto GM, but there is only one
7,400 GVWR Ford or GM or any other OEM. Ditto a 7,200 GVWR. Ditto a 6,800 GVWR, ETC

They are also, *ALL* half tons. Ditto that they are *ALL* F150's or 1500's...

Also, many prefer to use the number of wheel lugs...

Just curious why?...but really know why and the OEM marketing ID managers also
know why...

Because it says F-150 on the fender, tailgate, etc. and everyone knows what a F-150 is.

You can tell your co-worker you just bought a brand new Chevy 7800 GVWR but people are just going to look at you like you sprouted two heads. You might enjoy educating the general populace on the finer points of a 7000GVWR vs. an 8200GVWR but unless the individual is interested, you'll bore the hell out of them. And then they start avoiding you in the break room, or at least that's what I do to people that tell a 30 minute story that I've got no interest in.

You miss the point and do agree with you on out of contextual placement
at the super market check out line...

In context...this is a Towing/RV site...where folks come here looking
for information/help

So, yes, they all or most all "think" one F150 is no different than
any other F150. They all have the same marketing badge. 'Some' have
prefix/suffix marketing nomenclature. "HD", "Max Tow", etc to differentiate
between them...only some times and most times that nomenclature is
either out dated from the last gen, or just changed at the whim of the
OEM's marketing ID person(s)

Just re-read this post, or any of these posts, and you will see the
confusion among the question and even advisers

I'm here because someone from one of my Suburban sites asked me to
check out someone's post in reference to Suburbans...and have stayed.
Mainly because of the many lurkers PM's asking about a post.

One in particular to this individual thread and the over arching topic
from just a few years past

Got a PM from someone who just got back from a ruined DisneyWorld
vacation. They never made it down there...and had to turn back after
spending all of their vacation money and then some more on the repairs
on their credit cards, etc, etc

He wanted to file a lawsuit against an adviser on this portal and told
him that the advice on these freebie forums is worth what he paid to
join...nothing.


An adviser on this forum told everyone that he has a F150 and towed
that sized trailer all over for many, many years with no problems

So this lurker bought a similar trailer and planned that spoiled vacation
based on that guys recommendations...

Well, that adviser has a the 'fake half ton'...AKA F150 and back then
marketing badge with F150HD...or ~8,200 GVWR with an ~6K RGAWR...what
some of you advisers reference checking the number of wheel lugs: 7
and on the GM's fake half ton version: 8 lugs

The lurker has a 'regular' F150 of the lower end of these half tons
A 6,800 GVWR and a +4K RGAWR. To you folks who insist on NOT using
GVWR...a 6 lug F150 or regular half ton, which is in addition on the
lower GVWR of half tons...there is an even lower rated 'half ton'
and is at 6,200 GVWR

He burned up his diff on the way down there at about 1,000 miles from
home.

Had to rent a room for his family, pay an outrageous amount to have
the local Ford Dealer rebuild his diff. Lost his deposit in Florida,
spent several day in the middle of no where waiting for the parts
to be delivered and installed

He never returned my PM asking how it went towing back home, where that
same distance and trailer burned up his diff...

Not all 'half ton' TVs are the same and the specific of GVWR is much
better reference in providing advise...IMHO

So when you reference "F150"...which half ton are you referencing
out of the 14 or so different GVWR F150's?...and do you know which
one the newbie asking has?

Agreed Ben with all you say.

I've seen a post recently where someone implored the group to start referencing trucks by GVWR, rather than brand/model/etc. While I think it would be great, reality says it won't happen. I can't tell you the GVWR of my truck, because I've long since done the math and been satisfied my current trailers are within my trucks capabilities. The GVWR is listed in one place on my truck, in tiny 10 pt. font, on a sticker that I haven't looked at in >6 years.

I always say, caveat emptor. Some people want a quick answer to their problem, and don't want to do the homework (doublecheck) themselves to ensure they have the correct answer. I have a feeling the poster you referred to is one of those.

While I feel bad for that person, unless they learn a lesson, they will always be one of those "a fool and his money will soon be parted."