Is J2807 worthless?
A recent thread was locked due to brand bickering. Before I got a chance to respond to the latest turn of the conversation. It was stated that J2807 a worthless standard by a few people... Primaril...
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ShinerBock wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:
"Then there is the Ram 3500. Before Ram made all their "upgrades" specifically for the J2807 the most a 3500 was rated tow was 22.7k lbs. Then afterwards it was 30k.
There is an incredible difference between my 2011 Dually and my current 15 Dually. RAM specifically has not just made up numbers. They LOOKED the same but that is the only similarity.
That was actually the 2012 numbers, but as I said above they specifically "upgraded" and configured their truck to get high J807 numbers due to the lower standards and loopholes that it does not test. Basically overnight a 4.10 geared Ram 3500 with a 35 hp and 50 lb-ft of torque increase along with a slightly shorter 1-3rd gearing(4th is the same and 5-6th are taller) gave it enough of a performance boost to tow 30k the same as the previous model would tow 22k. Riiiggghhhttt....
Just so you don't think that I am just picking on Ram, I don't think that just a 40 hp and 60 lb-ft increase would allow the F450 to tow 31k with the same performance as it did with towing the 24k it was rated for the previous year either.
I can't speak to the Ford, but you are missing a LOT of the upgrades to RAM between 2012 and 2013. It is a whole new truck.
