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Lance Cab Over Strut Bracket Location

Geterdone
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When we purchased our 2013 Lance 1172 (NEW double slide) in 2013 the dealer mounted the cab over strut brackets at the edge of the front over hang where they normally are placed. The problem is we have shorter cab over struts from our 2003 Lance 1121, which are too short. In stead of purchasing new struts...I want to MOVE THE BRACKETS back about 6". Dealer said that was not recommended...but new brackets are over 600.00 and ours are fine just short. CAN THE BRACKETS COME BACK 6"...4 SCREWS MOUNT THEM INTO FRAME?

If anyone knows the answer...pls let me know.

ANYONE HAVE WORKING LONG STRUTS WHO WANT TO TRADE FOR SHORT ONES WE CAN CONSIDER.

Steve
Steve and Patti, 2014 Ram Duelly, Longhorn Laramie, Lance 1172 solar,Genset, torklift super hitch, and tiedowns, Bodiak front hitch,Polar Kraft boat when trailered.
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Gary_Gadget
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Had struts installed on my new Lance 1181 yesterday. The technician said there should be four inches of travel between the top end (on the shaft) of the strut and the cylinder for travel. That all I know. With the bad roads in USA, the struts do help as I can attest to. I have seen other camper brands using struts. Truck Camper Mag did a good test of struts.

bedrocker
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Lance makes 3 size struts
Reg cab
X cab
Crewcab

Geterdone
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I have 2 CAB OVER STRUTS, that are from my 2003 Lance 1121 and they are 36 in. from end to end. They are too long. I have 2 the dealer gave me that are 30 in. end to end...they fit my rig, as the brackets are CURRENTLY INSTALLED, BUT THEY DO NOT WORK.

I NEED A PAIR 30 INCHES THAT WORK OR MOVE MY BRACKETS ON THE CAMPER BACK FROM THE FRONT 6 INCHES. (THEY LOOK JUST LIKE THE LANCE PICTURED...BACK FROM THE FRONT 6 INCHES.) I WOULD PREFER TO KEEP BRACKETS WHERE THEY ARE AND TRADE MY LONG GOOD 36 IN STRUTS FOR A GOOD PAIR OF 30 INCH ONES.

THANKS
STEVE
Steve and Patti, 2014 Ram Duelly, Longhorn Laramie, Lance 1172 solar,Genset, torklift super hitch, and tiedowns, Bodiak front hitch,Polar Kraft boat when trailered.

Ski_Pro_3
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I'm guessing you are wanting to move the mounts on the camper FORWARD, not back, if the struts are shorter than the ones recommended for your camper/truck combination. Is that right?

If so, here are the things to consider;
Is there enough material built into the camper to mount in the new location? Lance provided me with a template of where I could mount my mounts. You should call them to get the specifics.

Lance says the shocks need to be at the same angle your windshield is at. That means, standing back and looking at the side of your truck with the camper on, the strut will be parallel with the windshield. I would think that the shorter struts, with the bracket moved forward to get them to reach, is going to make the strut stand more upright than slanted back like your windshield.

Lance says that the struts need to be placed so that there is enough length for the strut to move BOTH in and out. That means the strut's piston, the shiny part, is not fully extended, but about 3" or so compressed.

Here is a photo of the struts on my truck camper;


Of course, from the front, the shock is not even with the windshield, but instead slant out since the camper is wider than the truck at the mounting points. Here is a photo of that angle; from the front;



I recommend you get the right shock for your job. Sure, it's pricey, but I know for a fact; the single biggest improvement for ride comfort has been these struts. As long as the US highways have those expansion joints and potholes, the struts are the one thing that makes the ride and the piloting of the rig much more manageable.

JumboJet
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I had them on my 2008 RAM 3500. The additional cab length on the 2013 RAM 3500 basically prevents the use of the struts. I have noticed that the 2013 does not porpoise as much as the 2008 did.

I am not using my struts.

When the struts were installed on the 2008 they were parallel to the A pillar and windshield.

RamTC
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"ANYONE HAVE WORKING LONG STRUTS WHO WANT TO TRADE FOR SHORT ONES WE CAN CONSIDER"

What length strut do you need?
Present - 14' Ram 3500 4X4 DRW CTD AISIN 3.73
Past - 98' Ram 3500 4X4 DRW CTD / 99' LANCE 1110 / 04' ARCTIC FOX 990 / 05' ARCTIC FOX 990

turboo
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Hi, I don't have them , have researched them and want them , if we get a Lance someday. Make your struts longer; I would machine a stainless steel coupling , cut the strut midway and install the coupling made to lengthen the strut to the correct length, have it tig welded together . You could get fancy and incorporate some LED running lights built into the coupling piece somehow ๐Ÿ™‚

River_Sand
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mkirsch wrote:
Right off the bat, not many people use cabover struts. Nearly, possibly completely, NONE of the replies you will receive here will be based on actual experience. They will be almost pure conjecture.



I will have to disagree on this part of your post. I have the struts and I am sure other Lance owners here have them too.
Mine work great, on our concrete freeways it takes a lot of back and forth motion out (proposing).
There are 3 lengths made for the different cabs made. Measure eye to eye in the collapsed position and post it. I have a spare set that are made for a crewcab and are to long for my setup.
If you choose to move the mounts, the advice given on moving the mounts is sound, I would email lance.
River&Sand
05 Chev Ext.Cab K3500, Dmax/Alli, DRW, Reese Signature 18k, HappiJac, Jordan 2020
05 Lance 920 Truck Camper
06 Weekend Warrior LE3305, 5th Airborne, Dexter E-Z Flex ๐Ÿ˜„
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bedrocker
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I don't know why Lance is the only one
with these But I have try with & without
and they work better with Buy the right
ones and sell the others and be done with it ๐Ÿ™‚

Super_Dave
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Adding more mud to the water, can Lance owners tell me why Lance is the only camper that requires or uses struts?
Truck: 2006 Dodge 3500 Dually
Rig: 2018 Big Country 3155 RLK
Boat: 21' North River Seahawk

mkirsch
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I apologize for responding without knowing the exact answer to your exact question, but perhaps I can make some recommendations to help you find your answer.

Right off the bat, not many people use cabover struts. Nearly, possibly completely, NONE of the replies you will receive here will be based on actual experience. They will be almost pure conjecture.

Second, you are not going to find anyone in this forum who would be familiar enough with the structure of your camper at an engineering level to give you a educated answer.

Your first level of expertise would be the camper dealer. After that, you need to contact Lance directly for the answer. I suspect that they will give you the same answer as the dealer did: Not recommended. They will probably not expand on that answer or give a specific reason why.

Ultimately, nobody is really going to *KNOW* the answer to your question, not even the engineers who designed your camper. They designed the camper to handle the struts where the brackets are currently mounted. They did not perform any analysis on having the struts mounted anywhere else on the camper because they did not think anyone would want to mount them in a different location, so it was not worth the expense to perform the analysis.

You're basically on your own.

IMHO, is it really worth saving $600 to risk damaging a $40,000+ camper?

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.