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Lug nut torque specs?

sgfrye
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anyone use a torque wrench to check the TT lugnuts? i've been checking the lugs before each road trip, but amazon just delivered me a nice torque wrench. wondering what setting i should use.
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Lynnmor
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CavemanCharlie wrote:


Ha Ha,, are you so sure the bearings in your passenger vehicle are made so much better ? I had a 2004 Chevy pickup and the front wheel bearing went bad at 80000 miles. I could not service just the bearing and had to purchase the whole assembly new for like 300 dollars.


Yes, I am sure. I've had trailer bearings go bad almost immediately because of defective manufacturing. I only replaced two passenger vehicle wheel bearings, in well over a half century, and that was because of bad service during a PA State Inspection.

time2roll
Nomad
Nomad
GrandpaKip wrote:
I use a torque wrench after replacing a tire. I do check periodically, but not every 300 miles. Never had to tighten the nuts. Nobody says to do this on vehicles that I ever noticed. So whatโ€™s the deal? Is there something different about trailer lug nuts that can make them come loose?
The biggest difference is the truck will give an early warning.
Trailer warning is when the wheel passes you.

CavemanCharlie
Explorer II
Explorer II
Lynnmor wrote:
GrandpaKip wrote:
I use a torque wrench after replacing a tire. I do check periodically, but not every 300 miles. Never had to tighten the nuts. Nobody says to do this on vehicles that I ever noticed. So whatโ€™s the deal? Is there something different about trailer lug nuts that can make them come loose?


Trailer lug nuts center the wheel and take all the load. Most other vehicles have a center hole that precisely fits the axle. Trailer wheels have a painted or clear coat finish that will displace as the lug nuts bear on that soft material. Most of the loosening will take place when the trailer is first used.

Trailers have cheap Chinese bearings and components, so one cannot compare them with passenger vehicles.


Ha Ha,, are you so sure the bearings in your passenger vehicle are made so much better ? I had a 2004 Chevy pickup and the front wheel bearing went bad at 80000 miles. I could not service just the bearing and had to purchase the whole assembly new for like 300 dollars.

rbpru
Explorer II
Explorer II
I have noticed that after changing tires, checking brakes or any time I have to remove a wheel, the lug nuts do loosen a bit the next time we take it out.

They are not sloppy but most will need to be snugged up to the manufacturer's recommended 95 lbs. After that they seem to stay tight.
Twenty six foot 2010 Dutchmen Lite pulled with a 2011 EcoBoost F-150 4x4.

Just right for Grandpa, Grandma and the dog.

Passin_Thru
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Explorer
Diameter and grade, bolt and lubricant, threads clean or corroded make a difference. I worked on airplanes and you had to use a dial torque wrench and it had to be recertified every year. My trailer has US made Timken bearings not cheap Chinese.

Lynnmor
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Explorer
GrandpaKip wrote:
I use a torque wrench after replacing a tire. I do check periodically, but not every 300 miles. Never had to tighten the nuts. Nobody says to do this on vehicles that I ever noticed. So whatโ€™s the deal? Is there something different about trailer lug nuts that can make them come loose?


Trailer lug nuts center the wheel and take all the load. Most other vehicles have a center hole that precisely fits the axle. Trailer wheels have a painted or clear coat finish that will displace as the lug nuts bear on that soft material. Most of the loosening will take place when the trailer is first used.

Trailers have cheap Chinese bearings and components, so one cannot compare them with passenger vehicles.

Mortimer_Brewst
Explorer II
Explorer II
GrandpaKip wrote:
I use a torque wrench after replacing a tire. I do check periodically, but not every 300 miles. Never had to tighten the nuts. Nobody says to do this on vehicles that I ever noticed. So whatโ€™s the deal? Is there something different about trailer lug nuts that can make them come loose?

I'm wondering if alloy wheels are more likely to need re-torquing. All our vehicles have them now and all have needed re-torquing after 50-100 miles. I never had that happen with steel wheels.
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Turtle_n_Peeps
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GrandpaKip wrote:
I use a torque wrench after replacing a tire. I do check periodically, but not every 300 miles. Never had to tighten the nuts. Nobody says to do this on vehicles that I ever noticed. So whatโ€™s the deal? Is there something different about trailer lug nuts that can make them come loose?


There isn't.

Oh you will find blue noses on this forum that want to talk about side thrust in turns and all of that; bla, bla, bla.

Same way with checking bearings. I always ask people if they "gun" their TV bearings like they do with their TT bearing when they get out on a stop. Most say no; and I ask why not? Silence and blinking eyes is about all I get after that.
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GrandpaKip
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Explorer II
I use a torque wrench after replacing a tire. I do check periodically, but not every 300 miles. Never had to tighten the nuts. Nobody says to do this on vehicles that I ever noticed. So whatโ€™s the deal? Is there something different about trailer lug nuts that can make them come loose?
Kip
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rbpru
Explorer II
Explorer II
As nobby points out, many torque wrenches use a spring to set the torque value. A spring under constant tension can lose some of its spring force. This would make the wrench reading inaccurate.

By taking the tension off the spring between uses, we tension the spring only when necessary.

Change of spring tension over time, is one of the reasons many spring scales have a zero-set knob.
Twenty six foot 2010 Dutchmen Lite pulled with a 2011 EcoBoost F-150 4x4.

Just right for Grandpa, Grandma and the dog.

ROBERTSUNRUS
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Explorer
๐Ÿ™‚ Hi, my trailer specs for aluminum wheels is 110 to 120 lbs. I always torque mine to the max of 120 lbs. My manual also states that my steel wheel spare is only to be torqued to 90 lbs. My torque wrench only goes down to 20 lbs. and that is where my torque wrench is to be at when stored.
๐Ÿ™‚ Bob ๐Ÿ™‚
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Robbies_grandpa
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My Outdoors RV Blackstone required 125-130 so check your owners manual.

_1nobby
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Explorer
danimal53 wrote:
why should a torque wrench be stored at 0?
Mostly to unload the internal spring.