She's getting broke in

Good for you 4X4ord!

Hope your new rig gives you as much enjoyment as your previous. LOL, but nice to see that you're NOT babying the new rig!

Enjoy!

cbshoestring wrote:
There are exceptions for most trucks used by firefighters, rescue teams and farm equipment. If your rescue team is requiring CDL training/licensing for equipment used by/register to the "team", they may want to look in to the exceptions...could save ya'll some much needed funds.

Thank you, I'm well aware of the exemptions, I deal with them in the fire department I also work for. In my state we have an exemption for fire apparatus but it's only valid in-state. The rescue team I'm on deploys nationwide so the state exemption doesn't apply. The Stafford Act allows us some leeway in regards to hours-of-service and licensing requirements while deploying to a disaster, but none while traveling home. So, we have to jump through the same licensing hoops as anyone else. Not a bad thing, because we also deploy with 18 wheelers pulling 53' van trailers.

rjstractor wrote:

blt2ski wrote:
If I am pulling over a 10K trailer yet under the 26K limit, IIRC I still need a class A license. If over 26K, I most certainly do, as do ALL of the hotshotters one sees.

If you are under 26K GCWR (trucks GVWR+ trailer GVWR, not trucks factory GCWR) you don't need a CDL. The rescue team I drive for has a 14K GVWR flatbed trailer. When we tow it with the 11.5K GVWR F350 SRW, no CDL required. When we hook it to the 14K GVWR F350 dually it requires a CDL-A. Yes, virtually all the hotshotters need a CDL.

There are exceptions for most trucks used by firefighters, rescue teams and farm equipment. If your rescue team is requiring CDL training/licensing for equipment used by/register to the "team", they may want to look in to the exceptions...could save ya'll some much needed funds.

blt2ski wrote:
If I am pulling over a 10K trailer yet under the 26K limit, IIRC I still need a class A license. If over 26K, I most certainly do, as do ALL of the hotshotters one sees.

If you are under 26K GCWR (trucks GVWR+ trailer GVWR, not trucks factory GCWR) you don't need a CDL. The rescue team I drive for has a 14K GVWR flatbed trailer. When we tow it with the 11.5K GVWR F350 SRW, no CDL required. When we hook it to the 14K GVWR F350 dually it requires a CDL-A. Yes, virtually all the hotshotters need a CDL.

Tvov wrote:
Sooo... what is that tank for? (or did I miss that part?)

The tank is used to haul water to a field sprayer. We only haul about 50 loads per spray season.

Sooo... what is that tank for? (or did I miss that part?)

fj12ryder wrote:
Why would I have to get a C(ommercial)D(rivers)L(icense) if I'm not hauling commercial goods?

I don't want to take over the OP's post of the new rig....which looks awesome....but for a point of clearification.

Do NOT get hung up on the word "commercial". A CDL has more to do with how much you are hauling, not the reason you are hauling it. It is a weight thing mostly, but there are also passenger endorsements.

MOST states have exceptions for RVs, and a special license is NOT required, regardless of the weight (NOT to be debated HERE).

However, the flat bed shown in the OP's original pic is NOT an RV, no matter how many people think it is just a larger fresh water tank :B. Which brings me back to my first comment....As pickups have gotten bigger, stronger, more durable to compete on a limited basis with their class 8 relatives, the LAW has started to catch up & crack down on EVERYONE pulling these type of loads. The LEO doesn't know if the OP is pulling for himself, or delivering a load....and since it doesn't matter...many unsuspected people have gotten a lesson in licensing laws.

Sooooooo.... The truck can be perfectly legal to haul the trailer/load you put behind it. That does NOT mean you can drive it at those weights. Not that I care what you do either way---but LEO might.

I have to pull over in a commercial rig here in Wa st, from 16K total on up. be it an S-10 pickup pulling a commercial style trailer, or a class 8 semi into the WSP/DOT scales for weighing etc! If I am pulling over a 10K trailer yet under the 26K limit, IIRC I still need a class A license. If over 26K, I most certainly do, as do ALL of the hotshotters one sees. They have to follow ALL of the laws that Class 8 OTR rigs need to follow, max hours of driving, no more than X lbs per axel etc.

Marty

cbshoestring wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

cbshoestring wrote:
Greater than 26,000lbs with a trl in excess of 10,000lbs...the stuff many states are cracking down on.

Personally, I think it is amazing that a Pick-up is capable of hauling what many would call "commercial" weights.

Set-up looks good

Hotshotters have been grossing 25-30,000lbs on 1-ton duallies for a long time.

They are the "ONES" that have LEO's looking hard at ALL P/U trucks. North Carolina comes to mind...caught a guy with triple axel behind his dually---he was just moving the trailer for a friend. His GVWR was over 26,000, the trailer was over 10,000. They asked him for his class A CDL even though the trailer was empty (license requirement is based on capability, NOT actual). Heavy fines, truck parked, etc...

Just pointing out that they are cracking down on P/U trucks (hot shots), and have even made changes to CDL's to reflect those who took the test in automatic trucks (restricted from driving manuals) and those who hooked to a pintel for the test (restricted from 5th wheels). It took the law a while to catch up to the industry "skirting" the fringes of the law, but they are catching up.

Thankfully....they haven't cracked down on RVer's, YET. When they do, if they do, this forum will EXPLODE from all the people who can't believe they have to get a CDL.

I think I've got my truck registered for about 40,000 lbs so I still got a little room to play with.

blofgren wrote:
It looks pretty good. Interesting how it handles the load better than the 2011. Do you still have your 2011?

The extra 40 ponies is noticeable when pulling that much weight but the biggest difference between the '11 and the '16 is the way the exhaust brake of the 2016 can hold back a 28000 lb trailer. The '11 would hold back 15000 lbs adequately on relatively steep grades with a little driver input...(the driver had to slow the truck down enough to allow the truck to drop into 2nd gear...once in second it would hold back quite well).

The 2011 just sold a few days ago. The new owner came from 2500 miles away.