That’s A Bunch Of Grass!

[NRALIFR]

With a 2013 F450 pickup.

I think the GCWR for that year was 33K.





Hauling Grass

:):)

[RoyJ]

Rich1961 wrote:
Here's the 2014 F450 axle specs page 82:
https://madocumentupload.marketingassociates.com/api/Document/GetFile?v1=4309789&v2=053118020732&v3=...

2015 axle specs page 82. Looks to be a Dana S111:
https://madocumentupload.marketingassociates.com/api/Document/GetFile?v1=4309928&v2=053118025047&v3=...

Thanks for the correction on Dana 80; I figured it was a bit strange to have an 8-lug S110/130.

The actual rating of a Dana 80 is 11k lbs IIRC (Ford de-rates to 9650), so that hay truck is probably close to the limit, definitely over Ford's rating.

[Rich1961]

NRALIFR wrote:

Rich1961 wrote:

RoyJ wrote:

NRALIFR wrote:
I’m not sure what axle was on the rear of the 2011-2014 F450’s, but it wasn’t the Dana S130. None of the F450 pickups used that axle, it was used on the cab and chassis F450’s though. The 2008-2010, and the 2015-2016 F450 pickups used the Dana S110 and 19.5 tires and wheels.

At the beginning of the video, you can clearly see that the front driver side wheel is 8-lug.

The ‘11-‘14’s were oddballs that weren’t much different from the F350.

:):)

According to this guy his 2015 pickup came with an S130, which in the photos look identical to his F550:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1410665-f450-rear-axle.html#post15860273

Was there a change / heavy spec pkg that used the S130?

2011 thru 2014 used the Dana 80 in the F450 pickup.

That’s what I was thinking, but couldn’t find any info verifying that. I believe the 2011-2014 DRW F350’s used the Dana 80 as well.

According to the info in the FTE topic RoyJ linked, the rear axle in my 2016 is an S130, not the S110 like I thought. Mine never had the paper tag that clearly stated the axle type, and the metal tag on it isn’t at all clear about what it is.



But, this casting stamp supposedly identifies it as an S130., and that’s exactly what mine looks like.



So, maybe it is.

:):)

Here's the 2014 F450 axle specs page 82:
https://madocumentupload.marketingassociates.com/api/Document/GetFile?v1=4309789&v2=053118020732&v3=...

2015 axle specs page 82. Looks to be a Dana S111:
https://madocumentupload.marketingassociates.com/api/Document/GetFile?v1=4309928&v2=053118025047&v3=...

[NRALIFR]

Rich1961 wrote:

RoyJ wrote:

NRALIFR wrote:
I’m not sure what axle was on the rear of the 2011-2014 F450’s, but it wasn’t the Dana S130. None of the F450 pickups used that axle, it was used on the cab and chassis F450’s though. The 2008-2010, and the 2015-2016 F450 pickups used the Dana S110 and 19.5 tires and wheels.

At the beginning of the video, you can clearly see that the front driver side wheel is 8-lug.

The ‘11-‘14’s were oddballs that weren’t much different from the F350.

:):)

According to this guy his 2015 pickup came with an S130, which in the photos look identical to his F550:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1410665-f450-rear-axle.html#post15860273

Was there a change / heavy spec pkg that used the S130?

2011 thru 2014 used the Dana 80 in the F450 pickup.

That’s what I was thinking, but couldn’t find any info verifying that. I believe the 2011-2014 DRW F350’s used the Dana 80 as well.

According to the info in the FTE topic RoyJ linked, the rear axle in my 2016 is an S130, not the S110 like I thought. Mine never had the paper tag that clearly stated the axle type, and the metal tag on it isn’t at all clear about what it is.



But, this casting stamp supposedly identifies it as an S130., and that’s exactly what mine looks like.



So, maybe it is.

:):)

[Rich1961]

RoyJ wrote:

NRALIFR wrote:
I’m not sure what axle was on the rear of the 2011-2014 F450’s, but it wasn’t the Dana S130. None of the F450 pickups used that axle, it was used on the cab and chassis F450’s though. The 2008-2010, and the 2015-2016 F450 pickups used the Dana S110 and 19.5 tires and wheels.

At the beginning of the video, you can clearly see that the front driver side wheel is 8-lug.

The ‘11-‘14’s were oddballs that weren’t much different from the F350.

:):)

According to this guy his 2015 pickup came with an S130, which in the photos look identical to his F550:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1410665-f450-rear-axle.html#post15860273

Was there a change / heavy spec pkg that used the S130?

2011 thru 2014 used the Dana 80 in the F450 pickup.

[Cummins12V98]

RoyJ wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
If he had that weight there would be little space from top tire to bottom fender opening UNLESS he was bagged.

I also think you may be high on the tire capacity. Did you figure single or dual ?

My bad, forgot to use dual numbers. Should be 11,640 lbs @ 80psi.

Thanks. I still have nearly 2k in tire capacity over my RAWR.

[NRALIFR]

Well that’s interesting, as I’ve had both a 2010 and a 2016 and looked at the axle tags on both. They were both S110’s. Plus, I’ve never seen any doc that spec’d the S130 on the F450 pickup. I wonder if they were running out of supply of the S110? That was near the end of their run.

IIRC, there were only two rear axle ratios available for the S110 equipped F450 pickups. 4.30 and 4.88.

:):$

[RoyJ]

NRALIFR wrote:
I’m not sure what axle was on the rear of the 2011-2014 F450’s, but it wasn’t the Dana S130. None of the F450 pickups used that axle, it was used on the cab and chassis F450’s though. The 2008-2010, and the 2015-2016 F450 pickups used the Dana S110 and 19.5 tires and wheels.

At the beginning of the video, you can clearly see that the front driver side wheel is 8-lug.

The ‘11-‘14’s were oddballs that weren’t much different from the F350.

:):)

According to this guy his 2015 pickup came with an S130, which in the photos look identical to his F550:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1410665-f450-rear-axle.html#post15860273

Was there a change / heavy spec pkg that used the S130?

[RoyJ]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
If he had that weight there would be little space from top tire to bottom fender opening UNLESS he was bagged.

I also think you may be high on the tire capacity. Did you figure single or dual ?

My bad, forgot to use dual numbers. Should be 11,640 lbs @ 80psi.

[NRALIFR]

I’m not sure what axle was on the rear of the 2011-2014 F450’s, but it wasn’t the Dana S130. None of the F450 pickups used that axle, it was used on the cab and chassis F450’s though. The 2008-2010, and the 2015-2016 F450 pickups used the Dana S110 and 19.5 tires and wheels.

At the beginning of the video, you can clearly see that the front driver side wheel is 8-lug.

The ‘11-‘14’s were oddballs that weren’t much different from the F350.

:):)

[JIMNLIN]

2017 and up to 2021 Fleet Ford specs show the F450 pickup comes with 19.5" wheels/tires.
Specs shows a steel 19.5" - 8 lug @ 3590 lbs capacity.
And a polished aluminum 19.5"- 10 lug @ 3750 lbs capacity.

Seem odd for a 8 or 10 lug option with just one RAWR.

2014 listed the F450 came with a 8 lug 17" wheel.

No other size is listed. The new fleet Ford spec website the last year or so only goes back to 2014 that I have. Their old website spec pages went back to 2000.

[Cummins12V98]

RoyJ wrote:
That truck does NOT have 19.5s

F450 pickups of that gen came with the same tires as F350. 6k front GAWR, 9650 rear GAWR iirc.

Also, payload was lower than an F350 I believe. The only thing they had was a higher towing capacity to compete with Ram.

He's probably close to the rear tire limit of 12,800 lbs. However, that Dana 130 axle itself has plenty of capacity left (16k lbs)

If he had that weight there would be little space from top tire to bottom fender opening UNLESS he was bagged.

I also think you may be high on the tire capacity. Did you figure single or dual ?

[Me_Again]

There were two guys buying good grass hay for 60 dollars per bale in Eastern Washington and selling it across the mountain in Western Washington for 50 dollars per bale. One said the other "we are not making any money" and the other guy said "I think we need a bigger truck!"

[RoyJ]

That truck does NOT have 19.5s

F450 pickups of that gen came with the same tires as F350. 6k front GAWR, 9650 rear GAWR iirc.

Also, payload was lower than an F350 I believe. The only thing they had was a higher towing capacity to compete with Ram.

He's probably close to the rear tire limit of 12,800 lbs. However, that Dana 130 axle itself has plenty of capacity left (16k lbs)

[Cummins12V98]

Grit dog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

thomasmnile wrote:
Just a bit of tail squat. :B

Actually it looks good and I stand by my comment it may be at or within the RAWR.

But to quote you....."How will it handle evasive maneuvers?" lol

With THAT load probably not well. But since it’s a DRW it may have a fighting chance!