V10 Ecoboost - 600hp!

That appears to be a bad link.

Ford is making 600 HP in the Ford GT 3.5L Ecoboost. Why would they double the displacement without a substantial increase in HP??

Also a 600 HP engine in something like a truck would require a huge radiator. The van is limited to a smaller output V10 due to overheating problems with the limited space available for the radiator. I am sure that could have been fixed with a 4 core radiator, but they decided to just go smaller HP engine with 2 valves per cylinder instead of the F-350/450/ 550 362 HP V10 with 3 valves per cylinder.

Also current model pickup truck transmissions are not really good for that kind of HP and massive torque output. I guess it would be fun to think about though!

There are companies that put turbochargers on anything. I guess you could turbocharge a normal V-10 and get a massive amount of power out of a kit, probably only going to cost something in the $8,000 range? And a big beefed up transmission to back it all up. ..

Fred.

Golden_HVAC wrote:
Also current model pickup truck transmissions are not really good for that kind of HP and massive torque output.

I disagree. The current Ford 6.7L diesel is already putting out 860 pounds of torque.

Year after year people have been saying that Ford is going to release a big inch Ecoboost for there trucks. I have been saying, not going to happen year after year.

People have been saying just one more year, just one more year. :S

The only reason to release a big inch turbo engine is to get the duty cycle up. That is just one plus. Unfortunately there are a LOT of minuses.

As Fred mentioned cooling is a BIG one. It will take a radiator as big as a house to cool 600 HP with a big duty cycle. Just look at the size of the fan and radiator of the 440 HP 6.7 SD!!!!! :E

Then there is the fuel mileage problem. 350 HP V10's drank enough fuel without bolting a turbo on them. A 600 HP turbo V10 will drink WAY over a gallon of fuel a minute at WOT. I bet the EPA would love Ford to do this. :B

I had a supercharger on my 98 Dodge V-10 one ton. 6 mpg but would pull hills with 5th wheel without downshifting. Sold it and went Diesel truck. I did not trust the supporting electronic hardware from Paxton. Lost my a** money wise.

Would need to resolve the current ecoboost issues first.

https://youtu.be/C8RnrdJ_mPA

Direct injection issues.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2015/02/pros-and-cons-of-direct-injection-engines/index.htm

Chris

I would settle for a 5.0L EB.

sch911 wrote:
That appears to be a bad link.

Read the link closely. I think it's supposed to be bad.

The whole concept of a V10 Ecoboost is a bunch of baloney. Nothing shows up on google.

That said, why a big-inch Ecoboost when you can get 600HP out of a 3.5L? There is no replacement for displacement. The duty cycle on a 600HP 3.5L is very short (i.e. it's a race engine), but for an HD pickup truck you need something you can work all day every day.

Still, I would expect Ford to go V8 on an Ecoboost long before you'd ever see a V10.

mkirsch wrote:

sch911 wrote:
That appears to be a bad link.

Read the link closely. I think it's supposed to be bad.

The whole concept of a V10 Ecoboost is a bunch of baloney. Nothing shows up on google.

That said, why a big-inch Ecoboost when you can get 600HP out of a 3.5L? There is no replacement for displacement. The duty cycle on a 600HP 3.5L is very short (i.e. it's a race engine), but for an HD pickup truck you need something you can work all day every day.

Still, I would expect Ford to go V8 on an Ecoboost long before you'd ever see a V10.

Had to go back and look at the link LOL.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Year after year people have been saying that Ford is going to release a big inch Ecoboost for there trucks. I have been saying, not going to happen year after year.

People have been saying just one more year, just one more year. :S

The only reason to release a big inch turbo engine is to get the duty cycle up. That is just one plus. Unfortunately there are a LOT of minuses.

As Fred mentioned cooling is a BIG one. It will take a radiator as big as a house to cool 600 HP with a big duty cycle. Just look at the size of the fan and radiator of the 440 HP 6.7 SD!!!!! :E

Then there is the fuel mileage problem. 350 HP V10's drank enough fuel without bolting a turbo on them. A 600 HP turbo V10 will drink WAY over a gallon of fuel a minute at WOT. I bet the EPA would love Ford to do this. :B

This engine lives in that part of Anaheim California, called Fantasyland