All ActivityMost RecentMost LikesSolutionsRe: Overloaded circuits trailerbikecamper wrote: Rgar is most likely right. I don't know about NEC but CEC here in Canda, states that a max of 12 devices (lights, outlets etc) are allowed in a circuit unless specific loads are known, allowing for more outlets. Not sure how CEC applies to RV's though. But I'm also thinking that from the description it sounds like multiple conductors are connected to a single breaker. This is also not allowed under CEC. That rule of 12 is also a maximum and the book I have (the Canadian Simplified Electrical Code) actually recommends less if it's a circuit with all outlets. When I did my basement at home I think I put a max of 8 outlets per breaker. Where I went right to 12 was lighting. I think all that is moot, however, as these manufacturers are all in the USA, and from what I gather follow a "relaxed" version of the NEC because the structure is considered temporary.Re: Overloaded circuitsThe trailer only has 15 outlets altogether. They could have put 6 of them on the other breaker, and added a breaker for the converter and all would have been right. Especially since the circuits were named 'front' and 'back' I didn't in a million years think that 'front' meant 'the entire damn trailer' and back meant 'just these two outlets in the kitchen slide'. At the end of the day, I've got a solution to my main problem of tripping a breaker because it simply had too much connected load. RGar974417 wrote: I guess trailer manufacturer's don't follow the NEC because you're not allowed more than 8 general duty outlets on a 15 amp circuit.And kitchen and bath must be on separate circuits. Technically the kitchen and bathroom ARE on separate circuits. The outlet in the "kitchen" is the only one on the other circuit. All the other outlets are in the "living room" and "dining room" (Even though all the outlets are within 10' of each other in a giant open space in the main living area) and bedrooms. Those ones are all on the bathroom circuit. Hey at least everything is GFCI protected right? wa8yxm wrote: By the very same code there is a limit to the number of circuit breakers.. SO.... What can you do? (And please do not ask me to answer that question). I'm guessing the limit on number of circuit breakers isn't going to be a limiting factor. I had 6, and now I have 7 (I added two but disabled the one because it had been tripped many times so I figured it would be getting weak.) There's still room in my panel for two more breakers even though the total is 100A worth of breakers but the trailer only has 30A service coming in.Overloaded circuitsIt's been a while since I've posted here...Just didn't have anything interesting to add to any of the conversations. Anyhow, this came up recently when we had a battery problem that caused the battery charger to have a higher than usual load which in turn caused the breaker to trip...read on for the whole "saga"... My 2013 Zinger ZT33BH has (had, actually, more on that later) six breakers. 'Main', 'front', 'back', 'wtr heater', 'micro' and 'A/C'. The main is 30A, the A/C is 20, and the rest are 15. 'Front' has the 12V converter/battery charger and 13 receptacles wired to it. 'Back' has two receptacles wired to it. The rest are self-explanatory. The two receptacles wired to the 'back' are the GFCI plug in the kitchen and the outlet that the main fridge plugs in to (outside in the compartment behind the fridge.) The 13 outlets wired to the 'front' breaker are the GFCI in the bathroom, and 12 outlets throughout the rest of the trailer (All protected by the bathroom GFCI receptacle.) Don't get me started on the naming of the circuits... When the breaker tripped, I noticed the lights get really dim and pretty much the entire trailer went dead except for the main fridge. I reset the breaker and about 30 seconds later it tripped again. So, I shut off every appliance I could (an outside fridge, a water cooler, an ice maker and a TV.) Reset it again and it stayed on. Went and checked the battery since the lights were very dim, and the cables were quite hot and my panel inside registered that the battery was empty. Disconnected the battery since it seemed like it was faulty (it spent winter outside so I'm betting it sustained some damage. The water was full in it, so it wasn't boiled off or anything) and just let the converter power the 12V system for the rest of the evening. So at this point I have the converter and 13 outlets on a single circuit which is definitely too many devices on one breaker. I headed down to my RV store and picked up a new breaker (this one) and pulled the cover off the panel. The breaker labelled 'front' I pulled the wires from, untwisted the marrette and put the converter on one side of the new breaker and the AC circuit on the other, leaving the old breaker with nothing attached (it had been popped a number of times already so I figured it was getting weak and decided to just leave it out of the system entirely.) I can now run all my AC appliances and the converter without worrying about tripping breakers. I still can't run a hair dryer in the trailer because it's just too much load on that 15A circuit, but we solved that problem by using a heavy duty extension cord run back to the pedestal and just through an open window when DW needs to dry her hair. I post mostly because this appears to be a fairly common theme with these trailers, and this is a pretty simple fix to the problem. If you're having similar issues, it's definitely a place to start looking.Re: FLOOR PLAN............ or lack of one IAMICHABOD wrote: bmupton wrote: My wife drew ours up in AutoCAD when we were selling. The dealer mentioned hiring her to do more if them for their used inventory. I like to see a floor plan when shopping. A lot of times if you google or use Bing to see the unit and then click images and a floor plan will come up. That is how I looked for mine when first shopping. They were exactly what I saw later when I saw them in real life. BTW is This your floor plan? The reason I ask is to know if the images are right. That's my current floor plan yes. I searched high and low for the floor plan for my 1996 Mallard 31T when trying to sell it with no luck though.Re: FLOOR PLAN............ or lack of oneMy wife drew ours up in AutoCAD when we were selling. The dealer mentioned hiring her to do more if them for their used inventory. I like to see a floor plan when shopping.Re: What's new for 2014? 301TBS wrote: The closet at the entry door is a great feature. very usefull, too bad it is not put in all trailers. This is what sold us on the Zinger 33BH last year over the other similar floor plans.Re: What's new for 2014?Keyless entry would be a nice upgrade that I'm thinking of putting on mine. I have it at home, and love the convenience. I don't even carry house keys anymore. I also noticed this year they are putting the LED light strip against the trailer, whereas mine from last year is in the awning tube itself (So the awning has to be fully extended for the lights to be useful).Re: What's new for 2014?A's are out of my realm of possibility right now. I did see some pretty fancy ones, but nothing at all set up for my family. Maybe once the kids are older some of these floor plans would work, but right now the bunkhouse style TT is where it's at.Re: Need help deciding mrquacker wrote: Keep the wife happy. Quoted for truth! My way of deciding is taking the cons list from both and comparing which has "better" cons, then taking the pros list and deciding which stuff you can live without and go from there.What's new for 2014?So I went to the annual RV show here in Saskatoon over the weekend, just to check out what's new in the RV world. Lots of great deals on accessories from the three dealers that put this show on, but nothing really new from last year. One thing I noticed that caught my attention was this 30-ish foot bunkhouse model with a pantry: And a 33' Lacrosse bunkhouse model with an island kitchen very similar to my Zinger 33BH, but it had a full closet at the front entry instead of a partial closet like mine: Otherwise nothing really new or inventive this year. What have other seen that's new this year?
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