10' garage real world loading?

1L243 wrote:
The fenders stick out 3". Someone told me once that fenders did not count? Plus you got awning polls and such...

Correct. Fenders are "spray reducing devices."

Also, additional exceptions apply in most states for RV equipment (lights, awnings, doors, etc).

Oregon DOT wrote:
Federal regulations, (23) 49 CFR Part 658.16, specify what is excluded from length and width determinations. This includes such items as rear view mirrors, turn signal lamps, handholds for cab entry and egress, splash and spray suppressant devices, and load induced tire bulge. Also excluded from length and width determinations are all non-property-carrying devices, or components thereof, at the front of a semitrailer or trailer, or that don't extend more than 3 inches beyond each side or the rear of the vehicle, or that don't extend more than 24 inches beyond the rear of the vehicle and are needed for loading or unloading.

I always say measure about 10 times before you buy. Things like cables for the doors, bed rails all can interfere with quads and toys fitting.

But like that pic shows how tight it is. If one quad has oversized or even aftermarket wheels and tires it can make it not work.

2BLAZERS wrote:
Forest service, WA, ID, UT, Paiute and OR ATV trails are set at 50'' NOT 48''

Thanks I was going from memory and 48" stuck in my head. Never had issues in WA or OR just UT.

This is what makes two large utility quads side by side in a toy hauler garage very difficult.

I really had no problem with our Raptor.

Y-Guy wrote:

taken wrote:
Problem is, a Sportsman 850 isn't 48" wide. It's 51" wide. Two of these will rub if you have happijack bed tracks on either side... They're fatties.

When I researched before I posted I found the 2014 specs said, "Overall Vehicle Size (L x W x H) 83.25 x 47.6 x 50.75" I'd be very surprised they were stock over 48" since many places like the Paiute trail limit ATVs to a maximum of 48" and it's a standard for the USFS too.

Found with mine airing them up could save enough space to even get in around

Wrong!

Forest service, WA, ID, UT, Paiute and OR ATV trails are set at 50'' NOT 48''

Some states consider 48'' for licensing definitions of ATVs but not the trails. Never seen a 48'' wide trail and I've got tons of miles in OR, UT, WA, ID, etc... hence we also have a 50'' RZR.

Most quads from the factory are right under 48'' but many of us add differnt tires/wheels and end up just under the 50'' limit. My 550 Sportsman is about 49.5'' wide with 27'' mud tires on it. My 850 Scrambler is 100% stock and under 48'' wide just barely.

This is what makes two large utility quads side by side in a toy hauler garage very difficult.

The polaris quads, it stock, r 48 inches wide. If ur garage has 97-98 inches between the wall and can get by the brackets for the bed you should be good to get them in side by side. I would not trust any garage measurement without confirming it with a tape measure at the dealer. Even if u can do that the rzr 170 is not going to fit behind the quads in a ten dr garage without devising some kind of lift or standing it on end etc.

Bedlam wrote:
If you want larger garages, look at the car haulers with living quarters. The most popular model is the Work and Play, but there are others like InTech, Millennium and Feather Lite which will give you a bumper pull RV with a big dedicated garage. The other advantage of these is that they sit lower have have less drag on your tow vehicle plus usually have better cargo capacities if you load heavy.

Unfortunately that was what I didn't like about the Work and Play. I do still want to be able to take it back into the Nat'l Forest roads and dry camp. Lower slung rigs like that aren't too conducive to travelling the back roads.
We still haven't gotten out to actually look at anything yet. The computer has always been our best friend to prevent a lot of wasted trips.
That is sad to hear about Heartland. I didn't know Thor had taken them over and I hate to see that because they had some of the better quality units for the price IMHO. But like any TT out there, you really are taking a chance on any of them until they come out with some REAL industry standards and practices.
On another note, I think I'm going to have to get the inside measurements of the rigs we really like, mark it off on my flatbed trailer and do a mock up of a ramp system for the wheelers and see how much is left for a RZR 170. If it works great, if it doesn't then we will keep looking.....

If you want larger garages, look at the car haulers with living quarters. The most popular model is the Work and Play, but there are others like InTech, Millennium and Feather Lite which will give you a bumper pull RV with a big dedicated garage. The other advantage of these is that they sit lower have have less drag on your tow vehicle plus usually have better cargo capacities if you load heavy.

HaulinBass02 wrote:

I do however tend to shy away from Forest River products. Never owned one but have never been impressed by ANY of their products and neither have my friends who HAVE owned one. Keystone is slightly better. Heartland and Crossroads is more of what we may end up going with even if I have to sacrifice some garage length.

The tide is turning on your brand preference. Our last rig was a Heartland product. It was flawless but this was in the very beginning of Thor's takeover of the company. Cyclone owners are reporting tons of issues now unlike a few years back. Many of their long time high ups have quite based on Thor's ownership as well. Keystone is can go either way. Two trailers ago was a Keystone for us and had a lot of nonsense but one trailer doesn't make or break a brand. We went with a Forest River product this time around. Can't comment on the quality yet as it's still in the paint shop. However the standards and options could not be beat by any other brand that had our floorplan.

Well my wife was very specific on the TH. It HAS to have a separate enclosed garage. In case of a fuel leak or something else she didn't want any residual odors or anything in the main living area.
I'd love to find a 12' garage and have now seen a slim few that fit that bill. My truck has a shell on it otherwise we'd get a 5er so they all HAVE to go in the trailer. I know it sounds like a tall order but I'm not against having a modified loading setup so I can get the toys in and on the road.
I do however tend to shy away from Forest River products. Never owned one but have never been impressed by ANY of their products and neither have my friends who HAVE owned one. Keystone is slightly better. Heartland and Crossroads is more of what we may end up going with even if I have to sacrifice some garage length.

I got my info from MA DOT. I wonder if they signed on to this rule since? That's great info. Thanks and glad I'm wrong!