2010 sandpiper towing

this thing went south fast.

hook it up and if you are not happy with the sag bag it. Check to make sure your rear tires are up to the task.

hit the road, and good luck not being mobbed by the weight police. :W

Air bags serve no function except to level the truck body!

OK, I will clarify my statement. I did say on our long bed dually. The hitch is centered over the axle, so all the weight is on the rear axle (no lever action here) Reese 20K hitch using Reese Custom no drill mounting brackets, if it was forward of the rear axle, yes some weight would be transferred to the front, if behind the axle as in TTs you remove weight from the front axle, thus the reason for a Weight Distributing hitch, to put some of that weight back. I have the weight slips showing the increased rear axle load with the 5er, but it also shows no increase in the front axle.
If you full time, you will be surprised how much stuff you carry. I can guarantee that we're carrying probably a little more than 3K with full wardrobe of clothes for two (have to be prepared for all weather conditions), food to go a week or more without going to the store, portable fully stocked freezer in the basement, plus all the pots, pans, dishes, etc. that one would have in a small apartment.

goducks10 wrote:

In the OP's case with a 2400lb pin that's only 48lbs.

In my case it transfers about 150-200lbs to the front. That seems about perfect to me as it keeps the front end planted when hitting bumps and makes for a smoother ride. There are few things I hate more when towing than feeling the steering get lite. If all of the weight is directly on the rear axle or worse behind the axle the front will tend to lift on bumps. This is of course just my opinion and others may feel differently.

shadoow wrote:

fpresto wrote:

Michelle.S wrote:
If the fifth wheel is set up properly (at least with a long bed) there should be no extra weight on the front axle, it's all carried on the rear axle.

I disagree with your statement; at least in some installations. My last two B&Ws and a previous hitch, I can't recall the brand, both required that the hitch be installed a minimum of two inches forward of the rear axle to intentionally transfer some of the weight forward for better balance and steering. I do not know what hitch you use so it may be different.

i've got a B&W companion setup and there is a slight increase in the front axle weight when the trailer is hooked up, but it's not much. In my case it's about 2% of the pin weight.

In the OP's case with a 2400lb pin that's only 48lbs.

Michelle.S wrote:
Yes, a dry weight of 10900, but do you plan to tow it with nothing in it?? Gross is just over 14K so real world Pin could be upwards of 2800 Lbs so you need to look closely at your numbers.

And to JrWhited: That's a first about AirBags transferring weight back to the Front axle. If the fifth wheel is set up properly (at least with a long bed) there should be no extra weight on the front axle, it's all carried on the rear axle. We carry 4K of pin and it's all on the rear duals, front axle is the same fifth wheel or not.

I really doubt the OP or anyone loads 3100lbs into their 5th wheel.
1000-1200 average puts the loaded weight near 12,000lbs. So 2400lbs on the pin. Right at the max payload. RAWR is 6100 so in theory you'll be over GVW but under everything else.

No weight gets transferred to the front axle. My 2500 CTD front axle is 4900lb dry. Same when 1800lbs is put in the bed.

as you lift the rear with bags back to level, some weight will be transferred to front.It's simple physics

fpresto wrote:

Michelle.S wrote:
If the fifth wheel is set up properly (at least with a long bed) there should be no extra weight on the front axle, it's all carried on the rear axle.

I disagree with your statement; at least in some installations. My last two B&Ws and a previous hitch, I can't recall the brand, both required that the hitch be installed a minimum of two inches forward of the rear axle to intentionally transfer some of the weight forward for better balance and steering. I do not know what hitch you use so it may be different.

i've got a B&W companion setup and there is a slight increase in the front axle weight when the trailer is hooked up, but it's not much. In my case it's about 2% of the pin weight.

Michelle.S wrote:
If the fifth wheel is set up properly (at least with a long bed) there should be no extra weight on the front axle, it's all carried on the rear axle.

I disagree with your statement; at least in some installations. My last two B&Ws and a previous hitch, I can't recall the brand, both required that the hitch be installed a minimum of two inches forward of the rear axle to intentionally transfer some of the weight forward for better balance and steering. I do not know what hitch you use so it may be different.

Yes, a dry weight of 10900, but do you plan to tow it with nothing in it?? Gross is just over 14K so real world Pin could be upwards of 2800 Lbs so you need to look closely at your numbers.

And to JrWhited: That's a first about AirBags transferring weight back to the Front axle. If the fifth wheel is set up properly (at least with a long bed) there should be no extra weight on the front axle, it's all carried on the rear axle. We carry 4K of pin and it's all on the rear duals, front axle is the same fifth wheel or not.