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Vulcaneer
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Dec 08, 2013

RV warranty or pay for repairs

In a closed thread, the OP complains of an RV manufacturer being non-responsive to warranty repairs. Much of the problem seems to be related to frame problems. The OP may have a valid point. However there are some issues he may not understand, too.

The manufacturer may warranty the unit. But it is really Lippert that guarrantee's the frame. The RV builder cannot authorize any one to repair the frame. Lippert needs to do that. Because Lippert is responsible for the frame manufacturing, repair, and future warranty. Same as for the fridge, microwave, tires, roof, furnace, water heater, etc. The component manufacturer is really the responsible party for the warranty. The RV manufacturer is merely the agent. Not saying that a RV manufacturer does not have responsibility to the buyer. They need to and should make it happen. But the component manufacturer can stymie them with non-response, and foot dragging.

There are some differences by manufacturers. Some 5th wheel manufacturers warranty's the RV for 2 years. While his component manufacturers may only warranty a component for 1 year. This issue can be handled in different ways by the RV manufacturers.

Either the RV manufacturer may pay a higher price for the component, to support a component manufacturer for the added year of warranty value. Or the RV manufacturer pays the same price for the component with a one year warranty. And then if the component breaks after the one year period, then the RV manufacturer pays for the repair/replacement costs. Either way the RV manufacturer has the responsibility to authorize any warranty repair before the work is done. But in some cases may communicate with the component manufacturer before authorizing or refusing warranty repairs.

Generally speaking RV warranties are not like automobile warranties. Where the manufacturer carries full responsibility. RV warranties are more like new home warranties.

But when you are stuck somewhere for a long period trying to get your RV repaired under warranty, this whole issue does little to reduce the frustration factor. And sometimes you are better off (and money ahead) to just find a local authorized repair service that you can pay to get you up and running.

Just tossing this up here for others to comment. Lets keep it civil.
  • I found the opposite to be true. When we had a Montana, even though Lippert had a warranty on the frame, all warranty work was done through Keystone, including the catastrophic failures Lippert was having with the frames back then. Montana did the repairs and warranty, and I'm sure they collected something from Lippert.

    When we wanted to add a bike rack to ours and Lippert said "NO", even when the brand new ones came with a bike rack, the Montana service manager explained it to us like this - He said Montana installed the bike racks at the factory and Montana is our warranty coverage for all issues with the coach. He told us that for the Montana 1 year warranty period, we only have to deal with Montana, and they will deal with Lippert if something is owed to them. He also said Montana may elect to cover something after the warranty expires, even though Lippert may deny the repair, and they did so on several frame issues that were over 5 years old.

    Just went through it again, where we had a spring band break. The work was authorized and performed by our manufacturer, even though Lippert called to get the scope of parts needed. Lippert decided what they would cover, but it was transparent to us, because our manufacturer covered it all.
  • The OP's original post stated issues with a frame. The frame is NOT something that was added, bolted in, or plugged in after the RV was built which nearly all have their own warranty periods from their manufacturer.

    The frame chassis is the RV manufacturer's selected beginning, base, internal, integral part of the RV and issues with it are the responsibility of the RV's manufacturer who then has to deal with the frame manufacturer at his option after knowing about the issue. All the RV owner wants is to have it repaired or replaced in a very timely manner and in accordance with the warranty terms. The owner had NO expectation or desire to have a frame problem as the owner had zero input as to it's design, build, or install and that fact goes far beyong just the frame!.

    YES, it's an RV manufacturer's problem and the warranty should always be used where possible as it establishes a written documented history of the issues especially if the fix ws only partial or didn't hold properly or the issue occurs again and causes further problems. Once a failure occurs within the original warranty period as is documented, the owner will have a BIG leg to stand on again for the same length of time from of the repair as the original warranty on that issue.

    For instance: If you had a 2 year warranty on an item and it failed at 23 months and is replaced with a new one, the new item doesn't automatically have just a ONE month warranty left.
  • We have a 2013 Winnie, Journey 40U!
    Would like to have the dealer or, MFG, send the part or let me pick-up.
    But no , has to be a "authorized " mech just to plug in the part.
    Real P.I.A. Shut every timing up and take in for them
    "We will order the part" will call when it is in and bring the coach back.
    THANKYOU for lettin me vent.
  • Being non responsive is the real issue ....take the customers money then not deal with a issue that has come up. Why be a ass and leave the customer hanging. Maybe RV owners and consumers need to push for some legislation to better protect the customers of the RV industry. I think maybe there need to be lemon laws and Magneson Laws that pertains strictly to the RV industry. I got plenty of run around with my initial issues from both dealer and MFG but in the end the MFG knew what was needed and stepped up to the plate and resolved the issue above and beyond my satisfaction .

    So as a MFG of rv's and MFG of rv parts and or components why give the people who support your income the run around in fixing problem with a product you designed and built or manufactured?

    Think about the quality of the products that would improve if you simply had a specific lemon law for RV's
  • I laugh at warranties, they are nothing but a false sense of security to the buyer. The truth is, the cash paying customer ticket goes to the top of the service request pile and gets the top tech. Warranty work goes to the bottom of the pile and you get the tin horn in the shop to do the work. A lot of times they just cover the parts and not the labor. With labor at $95 per hour...well go figure. Don't ask me how I know.
  • Exeter...I agree but the real world is different. Can't tell you how many times I brought a warranty issue up to my trailer manufacturer only to have them say "not our problem....you have to contact the component manufacturer." Your selling dealer will sometimes cut through that hassle for you, but if you deal directly with the trailer manufacturer or a non-selling dealer expect to get redirected.
  • I have seen a lot of RV warranties that wasn't worth the paper they were wrote on. I have bought several new RV's without any major problems. How many threads from people that bought warranties and could not use them or the warranty company was no longer in operation.
  • Just seems to me being responsive and repairing the problem are separate issues. After a customer buys your product being responsive may just mean assistance in getting the right people to repair it. That doesn't mean that it is covered under warranty by them. Seems, for example, an RV manufacturer would have much more leverage on a frame manfacturer than I would as an individual. Being unresponsive means exactly that. Now that I have your money too bad you are on your own.

    When my Lippert jacks went out Monaco helped me get them repaired through warranty. Monaco didn't build the jacks. Monaco wasn't responsible for their operation. However, I am their customer and although there may be no legal obligation they helped me with a solution because they appreciate me as a customer. Monaco has treated me better than any RV manufacturer and I have been buying RVs since about 1960. On the other hand my previous RV was a Jayco. They were unresponsive. Doesn't matter if they were directly or indirectly responsible. I would never buy another Jayco. As it turns out Jayco was responsible for repairs but refused to accept any responsibility. JMHO
  • Gonna have to disagree a bit.....

    While I understand what you are saying....

    If I buy an RV from a manufacturer and there is a warranty issue...
    I could care less the behind the scenes.
    It is the manufacturers responsibility to deal with it..

    I could care if they have to go down the street and buy a part at camping world to fix an RV...
    then they can deal with it internally later.

    It is the manufacturer who sold the product that is responsible. period.