Saliun S637

Tireman9 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:
Look like great tires to me, especially seeing as how they've met more than several Quality and Management control processes( ISO9001, ISO14001 and ISO/TS16949)....Unlike a lot of China made tires, these people seem to want to build a quality product. My OWN company has met all the above criteria as a world wide Tier One Supplier and it's not easy....All one has to do is the research...MOST Chinese made tires DON'T have the credentials these tires do...IF reports stay good, when time to replace my G614's...I will be looking hard at the Saliun S637...again, if you look at the company's QUALITY EARNED credentials, you'll understand why nowhere NEAR the negatives as other "may pop's" manufactured in China...again....do the research....as of now this tire would be the only one I'd look at made in China at this time to replace my OEM tires...

NC
Where did you find the ref to ISO standards for Sailun?
If in fact they have meet these requirements they are clearly head and shoulders above all but the "Majors" (MI, GY, BS, Cooper, Toyo, Hankook, General)
If you want to supply "Detroit" big 3 you must be TS16949 certified. Loose the certification and you can loose your business.
To those that don't know what these standards mean ask your RV manufacturer if they or any of their suppliers are ISO/TS16949 or were QS9000 certified? I would be surprised if they even knew what "ISO" stands for.

ISO standards are easily found referenced by any tire manufacturer that sells tires to the auto industry.

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Sailun certification

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up2nogood wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

Wiley75 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
You've never had a blowout with damage, but you'll swear that GY will cover it if you do. As long as it isn't road hazard, and you can prove to them that it wasn't road hazard. Riiiiight, and I'll respect you in the morning. :)

I think I'll try the Sailun and see how it goes.

He was very vocal with several consecutive posts in this thread about how paying less for a set of good quality foreign made tires is a mistake and the OP won't be reimbursed for trailer damages. Now he's resorted to calling people names "tight wad" who respectfully disagree. There is a group of "tire" guys on this forum that are so incredibly opinionated that anybody who dares diagree will ultimately be called names and ridiculed. Whatever. To each their own.

I think the original poster made a good decision with tires.

It boils down if you own GY tires ,Mobile Suite, and B&W, Oh almost forgot Ram Fiat you can belong to the club, if you post anything to the contrary watch out.

If I would have done a little more research on tires ,and would have run across Sailun tires I would have bought them instead of the G614's. G614's are overpriced , and they have had their share of failures . As some have stated that is why we pay for insurance, no need to double it up paying for overpriced tires. Does anyone know for sure if Sailun won't step up to the plate if you have a failure with damages. Sailun will be my next tire when the time comes, reviews look good. NC you are correct time will tell, but I have the feeling as time goes on we are going to hear good things.

Don't forget to add MaxBrake to the list!

"Does anyone know for sure if Sailun won't step up to the plate if you have a failure with damages."

Why would you be asking such a question??????? That is what you have insurance for, right????

What I am saying is how do we know Sailun does not step up to the plate to cover damages on a failure. I don't care one way or the other, nor did I care whether GY covers damages, I bought the GY thinking I was giving myself less chance of failures, not whether they will fix damages or not. There are not a lot of choices out there for the heavier fifth wheels it is either a good G rated tire or going to 17.5 . If Sailun works out for that application why would you want to discredit it because it is not YOUR choice of tire.

Yes you are correct that is why I have insurance, and not banking on GY. Yes I know they cover damages until for whatever reason they don't .

I don't believe I have discredited Sailun tires once. I give reasons for why I like something and seem to get slammed for voicing my opinion.

The reason I mention Insurance is if you claim for some tire damage they probably won't raise your rates but anything else that comes along and you claim it watch out!

I never expect to have a claim with my GY tires but if I do I know I am covered.

BTW I use Michelins and BFG's on my vehicles.

Me Again wrote:
Here is what I have learned as a snowbirder and having talked with many people that have had tire failures. Goodyear is the best hands down. They would like you to claim it on your insurance and they will pay the deducible! If however you do it correctly with them, they will pay for everything, and it some causes give you 4 new tires, not just the one that failed.

You must have the failed tire and get a Goodyear dealer to ship the tire in to them. No tire no deal.

This spring a friend lost a Commercial TA and BFG/Michelin fixed his trailer and provided one new tire.

Few if any of the 2nd tier tire provides will pay for trailer damage, period!!!! It is excluded in just about all tire warranty statements ( including Goodyear's) as consequential damages.

So if you want to save a 100 dollars per tire on these Saliun tires that seem to be getting good review "so far", then great! Just understand that if one fails you will most likely not get the "Goodyear treatment"!

I could run much cheaper tires on my trailer and most likely never have a problem over the short haul. However we tend to keep things many years and buying the best has paid off in the long run for us. Your experience may vary!

Time to close this one!!!!!

Chris

You've been quiet in this thread because LT vs ST hasn't been debated much, (and believe me, we ALL painfully know where you stand on that topic), but I knew you'd show up sooner or later.

You opinion that GY is the best "hands down" is just an opinion. And it's interesting that you call any tire brands that you do not personally recommend as "2nd Tier". In my opinion GY is "2nd Tier". I've been around semi trucks, heavy equipment, and trailers my entire life. GY is probably the worst offender of selling crappy tires of them all.

Funny that now in this thread some folks that don't agree are starting to speak up and suddenly you suggest that the thread be closed down. Ha Ha.

Most tire issues still come down to weight.
If you are loading any tire at its weight limit, it will run hotter, wear faster and be more prone to failure.
We all know that many of the RV manufacturers put Axles and Tires that are marginal at best and look good in the brochures for dry weight, then when we add options like 2nd A/C, Larger Refig, Generator, Dual Pane Windows and such the actual weight goes up the carrying capacity goes down and the RV gets close to the Gross Weight Rating of the axles and tires.
When running a trailer or 5er with a loaded weight of less than 12,000 lb. axle weight with a "G" Rated tire, they should last forever if the trailer is balanced and there is not more than 3,000 lbs on each tire. When running axle weight above 12,000 or more than 3,000 lbs per tire, even the "G" rated tire is getting a workout, this is the reason many have moved up to a 17.5" tire.
If you look at the brochures and then go on the lot and look at the yellow label the manufactures are required to put on RVs today that show actual "As Built" weight, many of them do not have much carrying capacity left before hitting max weights.
If more RVers had their trailers weighted with all their stuff as they travel, they would be surprised.
Like the dealer telling the 1/2 Ton Truck owner, "You can Pull Anything in the Lot"
If you can pack it in the trailer and still get the door closed, it must be Ok !!!!
We actually have 7,000 lb. axles but the manufacturer de-rated the axle weight rating to 6,800 lbs. since they put "E" Rated 3,400 lb. tires on the axle.

Here is what I have learned as a snowbirder and having talked with many people that have had tire failures. Goodyear is the best hands down. They would like you to claim it on your insurance and they will pay the deducible! If however you do it correctly with them, they will pay for everything, and it some causes give you 4 new tires, not just the one that failed.

You must have the failed tire and get a Goodyear dealer to ship the tire in to them. No tire no deal.

This spring a friend lost a Commercial TA and BFG/Michelin fixed his trailer and provided one new tire.

Few if any of the 2nd tier tire provides will pay for trailer damage, period!!!! It is excluded in just about all tire warranty statements ( including Goodyear's) as consequential damages.

So if you want to save a 100 dollars per tire on these Saliun tires that seem to be getting good review "so far", then great! Just understand that if one fails you will most likely not get the "Goodyear treatment"!

I could run much cheaper tires on my trailer and most likely never have a problem over the short haul. However we tend to keep things many years and buying the best has paid off in the long run for us. Your experience may vary!

Time to close this one!!!!!

Chris

Cummins12V98 wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
You've never had a blowout with damage, but you'll swear that GY will cover it if you do. As long as it isn't road hazard, and you can prove to them that it wasn't road hazard. Riiiiight, and I'll respect you in the morning. :)

I think I'll try the Sailun and see how it goes.

I don't have to prove anything. Yes I do trust they will cover the tire and damages if it is non road hazard. Don't believe me listen to NC and the MANY others on here that have been taken care of by GY.

That is an unbelievable post. Others said it on the Internet-I am sure it will work for me too!

I can't believe the rhetoric on this forum when it comes to tires. Anything will be said when you mount a Chinese Companies tire! ANYTHING!!

If you have read what I have said my Dad has been taken care of by GY for damages.

You can call him a liar also if you want.

I don't believe anyone called anyone a liar, but what good is a tire that fails, as I said there is little consolation to see your trailer all tore up sitting on the side of the road, to me the last thing I would be thinking is I hope the tire company is going to fix my trailer, that may come later ,but at the moment I am dead in the water until I get a tire or tires changed, and get myself back on the road. I would much rather have a tire that I can trust, and GY really has not proven that, been plenty of failures .

Cummins12V98 wrote:

up2nogood wrote:

Wiley75 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
You've never had a blowout with damage, but you'll swear that GY will cover it if you do. As long as it isn't road hazard, and you can prove to them that it wasn't road hazard. Riiiiight, and I'll respect you in the morning. :)

I think I'll try the Sailun and see how it goes.

He was very vocal with several consecutive posts in this thread about how paying less for a set of good quality foreign made tires is a mistake and the OP won't be reimbursed for trailer damages. Now he's resorted to calling people names "tight wad" who respectfully disagree. There is a group of "tire" guys on this forum that are so incredibly opinionated that anybody who dares diagree will ultimately be called names and ridiculed. Whatever. To each their own.

I think the original poster made a good decision with tires.

It boils down if you own GY tires ,Mobile Suite, and B&W, Oh almost forgot Ram Fiat you can belong to the club, if you post anything to the contrary watch out.

If I would have done a little more research on tires ,and would have run across Sailun tires I would have bought them instead of the G614's. G614's are overpriced , and they have had their share of failures . As some have stated that is why we pay for insurance, no need to double it up paying for overpriced tires. Does anyone know for sure if Sailun won't step up to the plate if you have a failure with damages. Sailun will be my next tire when the time comes, reviews look good. NC you are correct time will tell, but I have the feeling as time goes on we are going to hear good things.

Don't forget to add MaxBrake to the list!

"Does anyone know for sure if Sailun won't step up to the plate if you have a failure with damages."

Why would you be asking such a question??????? That is what you have insurance for, right????

What I am saying is how do we know Sailun does not step up to the plate to cover damages on a failure. I don't care one way or the other, nor did I care whether GY covers damages, I bought the GY thinking I was giving myself less chance of failures, not whether they will fix damages or not. There are not a lot of choices out there for the heavier fifth wheels it is either a good G rated tire or going to 17.5 . If Sailun works out for that application why would you want to discredit it because it is not YOUR choice of tire.

Yes you are correct that is why I have insurance, and not banking on GY. Yes I know they cover damages until for whatever reason they don't .

CKNSLS wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
You've never had a blowout with damage, but you'll swear that GY will cover it if you do. As long as it isn't road hazard, and you can prove to them that it wasn't road hazard. Riiiiight, and I'll respect you in the morning. :)

I think I'll try the Sailun and see how it goes.

I don't have to prove anything. Yes I do trust they will cover the tire and damages if it is non road hazard. Don't believe me listen to NC and the MANY others on here that have been taken care of by GY.

That is an unbelievable post. Others said it on the Internet-I am sure it will work for me too!

I can't believe the rhetoric on this forum when it comes to tires. Anything will be said when you mount a Chinese Companies tire! ANYTHING!!

If you have read what I have said my Dad has been taken care of by GY for damages.

You can call him a liar also if you want.

fj12ryder wrote:
You've never had a blowout with damage, but you'll swear that GY will cover it if you do. As long as it isn't road hazard, and you can prove to them that it wasn't road hazard. Riiiiight, and I'll respect you in the morning. :)

I think I'll try the Sailun and see how it goes.

That is your choice to buy what you want and it is my choice to buy what I want. But don't twist what I say! I don't have to prove anything. If it is non road hazard based on their examination of the tire they will and do pay.

In my opinion they covered a tire on NC's RV that was probably overloaded because of a weak spring causing excessive load on that one tire.

I would say they went above and beyond for him.

I like a company that will back up their products.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
You've never had a blowout with damage, but you'll swear that GY will cover it if you do. As long as it isn't road hazard, and you can prove to them that it wasn't road hazard. Riiiiight, and I'll respect you in the morning. :)

I think I'll try the Sailun and see how it goes.

I don't have to prove anything. Yes I do trust they will cover the tire and damages if it is non road hazard. Don't believe me listen to NC and the MANY others on here that have been taken care of by GY.

No one doubts that they won't cover damages under certain or most conditions, what they are saying is you payed for that with an overpriced tire that has had its share of failures. Nothing wrong with giving a tire like Sailun a shot, sounds like they are getting good reviews. At this point from some of the horror stories on the G614's I have no more faith in them then I would a tire like Sailun. There is not much consolation in seeing your trailer damaged whether they repair it or not . IMO which ever brand fails it will be sixes as far as out of pocket cost, and if there are no failures on either one ,well you are money ahead with the less expensive tire .