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63-Coupe
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Jan 03, 2014

Swipe & Save Will Cost Canadians More, Not Less?

I just spoke to the Pilot/FlyingJ RV Card people on the phone as I was curious about a term used in the Terms and Conditions of the RV plus Card Program. In the section on currency exchange it states;

The currency conversion rate used by us to determine the transaction amount is generally the daily noon exchange rate for conversion of Canadian dollars to U.S. dollars, or U.S. dollars to Canadian dollars, as applicable, as posted by the Bank of Canada each business day, plus two currency basis points.

I wanted to know what they meant by two currency basis points and she told me that it was 2%. That means if I have a basic Good Sam membership, (Which I don't need), and use this card to buy fuel at say $3.70 a gallon, my $0.06 discount would bring it down to $3.64, but the two basis points will take it back up to $3.7128, which is 1.28 cents a gallon more than if I just used my credit card alone.

I was told that if I have a U.S. bank account I could pay in U.S. dollars to get around the charge but most Canadian banks charge a 2.5% fee over the exchange rate to deposit Canadian dollars into a U.S. dollar account, so that answer does not work either.

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  • 63coupe: Sounds OK. We are snowbirds so having a real USA bank account is a no brainer. I use Wells Fargo and they treat me better than any Canadian bank. I did read about Chase offering those accounts through Sears and others. I really do not like using a credit card when travelling. We use our USA debit card. I can also use at ATM's with no limit on the # of transactions and no fees. Nice Vette! Zora would be proud!
  • moisheh wrote:
    63 coupe: The swipe and save is not a credit card. There is no exchange rate problem. It is the same as the FJ loyalty card. Gets you a 3 cent discount. You still have to swipe your CC. BTW: What bank offers no foreign exchange surcharge. I do not know how much you travel in the US but an American bank account with a US address solves a lot of problems. You can buy funds from a currency exchange house at a better rate than any bank. No surcharge. Mail the funds to your US bank. You would also have a US debit card. No worries about inputing Canadian zip codes. You can also register with xe.com and transfer funds via bill pay to your US account. On Edit: I just reread your post and although you titled it swipe and save your discussion was about the RV plus card. Confusing.
    Moisheh

    Moisheh

    Thanks for your suggestions. I guess you are correct in that I should have used the RV Plus term and yes, by the time I finished asking questions and making phone calls I was rather confused. I usually only travel in the U.S. a couple of times a year so a U.S. bank account is not really of great value to me, although that may be changing so a U.S. account may be in my future.

    The credit card that does not charge the additional foreign exchange fee is an Amazon.ca VISA card through Chase bank. Purchases are converted into Canadian dollars on my statement using VISA's rate of the day the purchase was made. The balance owing at the end of the month is in Canadian dollars and I pay it in Canadian funds from my Canadian bank account. I have had no problem with its acceptance anywhere in the U.S. but I don't know if it is also available through Amazon.com for U.S. customers though.
  • 63 coupe: The swipe and save is not a credit card. There is no exchange rate problem. It is the same as the FJ loyalty card. Gets you a 3 cent discount. You still have to swipe your CC. BTW: What bank offers no foreign exchange surcharge. I do not know how much you travel in the US but an American bank account with a US address solves a lot of problems. You can buy funds from a currency exchange house at a better rate than any bank. No surcharge. Mail the funds to your US bank. You would also have a US debit card. No worries about inputing Canadian zip codes. You can also register with xe.com and transfer funds via bill pay to your US account. On Edit: I just reread your post and although you titled it swipe and save your discussion was about the RV plus card. Confusing.
    Moisheh
  • thestoloffs wrote:
    Per Investopedia and my 20 years working in Financial Services on Wall Street, a basis point in currency is 1/100 of 1%, not 1% as your telephone agent indicated.

    So, it's still a better deal (today's rate fix + 0.02%) than paying today's rate fix + the foreign exchange fee of 2.5%.


    The reason I inquired in the first place is that I have heard many different theories on what a "Basis point" actually represents. I did not want to assume what it might be but what you are saying is closer to what I actually thought it was. If in fact that is what they are charging then it is a better deal for me once the fuel discount overtakes the $25 I have to pay for a Good Sam membership that I really don't need. The biggest incentive is that with this card I can swipe it at the pump and do not have to go inside first to prepay on my Canadian credit card.

    I also have a VISA card that does not charge the extra 2.5% on foreign exchange. I only pay the rate fix for that day.
  • Per Investopedia and my 20 years working in Financial Services on Wall Street, a basis point in currency is 1/100 of 1%, not 1% as your telephone agent indicated.

    So, it's still a better deal (today's rate fix + 0.02%) than paying today's rate fix + the foreign exchange fee of 2.5%.
  • Hello 63-Coupe,

    Thank you for bringing this to our attention and I apologize for any trouble. If you could please send me your information in a private message, I would like to have someone get in touch with you soon. Take care and please let me know if you need anything ok? Have a great weekend!

    Elizabeth Black-Osborn
    Marcus Rapid Response Team

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