I ordered a manual and I'll check the dodge thread to see if I can get any good pointers on the pan drop thanks a lot this is sounding like it might be a pain in the butt, and I'm ok with that there's always gotta be one thing that's a pain I'm hoping if this is going to be that then hopefully it's the only one I'll let u know my progress when I have completed the pan drop witch I'll probably do this saterday, sucks I can only get to it on sat and parts of Sunday do to working two jobs but since u have been basically helping since I first got this rv I'll make sure I give u the update with some pictures if I can figure out how to post them lol