2016 Newmar Canyon Star 3610 Slide. Why do they do that?

Bumpy,
Those are pictures I just pulled off the net.

The way our floor plan is 3 of the 4 slides would present themselves as not dropping and still being a flat floor slide - that is a false assumption. Like the Winnie picture above, the only reason it appears to be a flat floor under the couch is because the couch is covering it. On the shallow slides you can do this.

On the deeper slide, as shown in the Newmar picture above, it will have the raised section of floor when in the travel mode. As mentioned before, it has to have a lip as there is no where else for the floor to go.

Take a look at the Winnie picture above and notice how limited that design leaves you. There is room for no more than 2 chairs at the table. There is always the trip lip, weather it's in travel mode or extended. A new Winnebago today, with the deeper slide, will have the same raised floor as the Newmar while traveling. Thats just a matter of real estate.

You can see in this picture (below) of a new Winnie how the one floor is truly a flat floor design and the other is a platform with a shortened couch on it to make it appear to be a flat floor. The flat floor will come up and make a raise as you describe, it has no choice.



I have a travel trailer that has the most basic, hand crank in slide you'll ever find. It's not a quality slide but it is fuctional. It is a true flat floor design, it too has the risen floor when in travel mode.

On the Newmar, these pictures show it well. On the outside there are no arms showing, yet take a look inside. This one has been modified and shows exactly what the floor looks like on the short slide. If there was a couch there you'd swear this was a flat floor slide, but it's not, it's a platform.





The other side has the arms but is also a true flat floor.

Here's a new Journey, has the arms on the outside, bring the slide in and it will have the same rise in the floor that the Newmar - or any other true flat floor slide, will have.




They're all building a flat floor slide now, Newmar was just the first to do it - and now they have a flat fully tiled floor. Looks great in the pictures, I haven't seen one yet.

Bruce Brown wrote:

Sorry Bumpy - wrong again. Newmar still uses that same design, the floor still lifts up. IT HAS TO! Where do you think the floor could magically go???

I know you love your Winnies, and thats OK, but "back in the day" their slide didn't drop, so every time you sat down at the table you had to step up onto the slide. I'd much rather have to deal with a lifted floor for the 2 times I walk through the MH when traveling than every single time I use it - every time.

Would you rather trip over this step all the time...

sorry, yes I "assumed" that they had dropped that silly design but haven't looked at a newmar for 10 years. and I had a winnie with two slides, and miraculously that motorhome had a flat floor, without the rube goldberg apparatus. One is often cautioned when in the RV market to see how livable the unit is with the slides retracted. I do not consider having to limp back down the hall with one foot 2 inches higher than the other to be "liveable".
you may only deal with it twice a trip but I didn't routinely on an overnight step extend the slide. and my rv was completely livable.
But good engineering, like my winnie had and the newmar didn't put the edge of the slide at the edge of base cabinets, bed support, etc. without a slap dash mickey mouse arrangement.
I would dare say with that raising up action that it is probably more prone to error than a standard slide action.

please post a picture of your aisle floor when that slide is retracted. thanks
bumpy

Funny! My wife was in a motorhome years ago and the one thing she remembers is tripping over the floor. I'd forgotten all about that. I mentioned it to her this morning and had a good chuckel!

Bumpyroad wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

2gypsies wrote:
Newmar is the pioneer on slides. It's there for a reason. :) In 8 years we've never had a problem with the slides.

I think that they were the pioneer on "flat floor" slides. had some kind of rube goldberg arrangement that lifted up when it came in and when retracted left a 2 inch high walkway on one side. did drop down flat when extended however.
bumpy

Newmar NEVER had a Rube Goldberg flat floor lift up system. What Newmar pioneered was the flat floor. ALL it does is, there is a slant the last 12 inches and the room rollers glide down that slant to get the floor level with the main floor. 20 years ago, HWH and NEWELL designed a lift up flat floor system for the Hi Line Newells. That system the room went out and then a sub floor was hydraulically raised to get the flat floor. Doug

when retracted their flat floor raised up and when you walked down the aisle one foot was 2 inches higher than the other. I call that rube goldberg. you can call it anything else you want. they stopped using that system which might explain something.
bumpy

Sorry Bumpy - wrong again. Newmar still uses that same design, the floor still lifts up. IT HAS TO! Where do you think the floor could magically go???

I know you love your Winnies, and thats OK, but "back in the day" their slide didn't drop, so every time you sat down at the table you had to step up onto the slide. I'd much rather have to deal with a lifted floor for the 2 times I walk through the MH when traveling than every single time I use it - every time.

Would you rather trip over this step all the time...



or enjoy this nice flat floor...

I would prefer these ones as they are stronger than swintek that look weaker. My FW has ta similar type, and would have it no other way.

I agree Ray, not even knowing much about a motorhome such a long slide bothered me. The space is great but it just seemed like trouble to me.

Bumpyroad wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

2gypsies wrote:
Newmar is the pioneer on slides. It's there for a reason. :) In 8 years we've never had a problem with the slides.

I think that they were the pioneer on "flat floor" slides. had some kind of rube goldberg arrangement that lifted up when it came in and when retracted left a 2 inch high walkway on one side. did drop down flat when extended however.
bumpy

Newmar NEVER had a Rube Goldberg flat floor lift up system. What Newmar pioneered was the flat floor. ALL it does is, there is a slant the last 12 inches and the room rollers glide down that slant to get the floor level with the main floor. 20 years ago, HWH and NEWELL designed a lift up flat floor system for the Hi Line Newells. That system the room went out and then a sub floor was hydraulically raised to get the flat floor. Doug

when retracted their flat floor raised up and when you walked down the aisle one foot was 2 inches higher than the other. I call that rube goldberg. you can call it anything else you want. they stopped using that system which might explain something.
bumpy

That is NOT Rube Goldberg and they have used it for years. Tiffin has the same design for their flat floor as did National. I have NOT really looked at a Newmar from 2010 to now, but I doubt they stopped using that system. Doug

I have seen many coaches with full wall slides and they are nothing but future problems. If you can get a coach with three or four smaller slides I think that would be the smart move.

Deleted,..... as this second post wasn't necessary with editing the other one.

tropical36 wrote:

Trackrig wrote:
It's very easy to post pictures - just drag and drop them into the below.
Picture Clicky

Bill

Let's test thing then and thanks.
Still don't know where you got the url, though?[img][/img]

Well, that didn't work.
OK, one more try, before I clutter up the whole network.




Wow and for those who might be visiting Yellowstone this year.
First time, I tried the drag and drop method.
Second time, I used the select method.
Now where can I find this url or must I keep it handy on my desktop?
Thanks again!