80" long corner bed+sofa+dinette+slide - Leprechaun 26QB

fugawi wrote:

melandme wrote:
We have had a 25B for the last two years and 28000 miles with no complaints. The reason we went with it was 1.the length for National parks and parking, 2. the couch, I hate sitting at the dinette, and 3. no slide, less weight and chance of mechanical failures. We did a week along trip with 5 adults, while tight it was doable. The corner bed can be a pain to make. The thing I like about the bed not being on a slide is when we overnight outside of a campground, we only have to put up a curtain to be ready for the night. We have traveled with the parents, the siblings, children and grandchildren and found this size to be a good fit.

Thank you. Good to know the 25B can work OK for longer trip with more people. We really like that fact it has an 80" long bed. Probably the biggest consideration between it and the Leprechaun 26QB is the extra room of the slide. And we are weighing the pros/cons of slide/no-slide.

We have a 25B also. We bought ours for the exact same #1-#2-#3 reasons stated above. No regrets. My significant other uses a sleeping bag on the corner bed and loves it. I enjoy the gloriously huge over the cab bed. Works for us.

Newbiecampers wrote:


We have a Coachmen Freelander 21qb. Similar to that 23U layout except minus the small chair by the entrance. But the coachmen has a nice large u-shaped dinnette that when made into a bed, can easily accomodate an adult-sized person. Rear bed is 60X80. Front overhang bed is also large.

Nice 50 gallon water supply. I added a second battery as well.

Looking at the floorplan you posted, the 21qb has a larger closet inside, by almost double.

Only 23'10". We drove this around on our last vacation and were able to get anywhere we wanted. We even scored a beautiful camping spot, with no reservations, in Glacier due to it's smaller size. A particular area of a campground there was hard-side units only due to bear activity, and further, the campers could not be more than 24 feet total length. We practically had the place to ourselves, except for a few other 24 ft class C's and some people pulling teardrop trailers. Getting into/around small gas-stations or parking lots: no problem. etc. etc.

No slide (which is what we wanted for the same reasons as most other people that don't want one).

Cargo capacity is 4500 pounds. All tanks full (water, fuel, propane, waste tanks) plus all of us and our stuff and we were still close to 2000 pounds under max.

The rear outside storage is massive for a class c this size. And the side door for the area is large enough to get big items in if you need.

It is, however, a more budget-minded camper. It lacks some features like: no radio in the cabin, not even speakers (none outside either), only a 2 way refrigerator vs 3 way, gas only water heater (but heats very fast), non-ducted air conditioning (can be loud), tpo roof vs fiberglass, etc..

Build quality is on par with what the rest of the rv industry is putting out: lacking in many respects. It is definitely no better, but certainly no worse than most others. We put 7000 miles on it over 19 days starting the day after we bought it and everything worked/nothing failed on us. Definitely some warranty issues to be fixed come spring.

Thank you. We continue to debate ourselves the pros/cons of 24' vs 26' vs 28'. We had a similar experience to your Glacier experience when we had our 20' bumper pull. We were able to get an excellent spot in Joshua Tree because we had the short trailer.

We also have enjoyed the extra space of a little longer trailer with slide.

Your 21QB is a nice plan and it's nice to have the cargo capacity that you do.

fugawi wrote:
Are there any other manufacturers with this layout? I haven't seen them in my research.

We have a Coachmen Freelander 21qb. Similar to that 23U layout except minus the small chair by the entrance. But the coachmen has a nice large u-shaped dinnette that when made into a bed, can easily accomodate an adult-sized person. Rear bed is 60X80. Front overhang bed is also large.

Nice 50 gallon water supply. I added a second battery as well.

Looking at the floorplan you posted, the 21qb has a larger closet inside, by almost double.

Only 23'10". We drove this around on our last vacation and were able to get anywhere we wanted. We even scored a beautiful camping spot, with no reservations, in Glacier due to it's smaller size. A particular area of a campground there was hard-side units only due to bear activity, and further, the campers could not be more than 24 feet total length. We practically had the place to ourselves, except for a few other 24 ft class C's and some people pulling teardrop trailers. Getting into/around small gas-stations or parking lots: no problem. etc. etc.

No slide (which is what we wanted for the same reasons as most other people that don't want one).

Cargo capacity is 4500 pounds. All tanks full (water, fuel, propane, waste tanks) plus all of us and our stuff and we were still close to 2000 pounds under max.

The rear outside storage is massive for a class c this size. And the side door for the area is large enough to get big items in if you need.

It is, however, a more budget-minded camper. It lacks some features like: no radio in the cabin, not even speakers (none outside either), only a 2 way refrigerator vs 3 way, gas only water heater (but heats very fast), non-ducted air conditioning (can be loud), tpo roof vs fiberglass, etc..

Build quality is on par with what the rest of the rv industry is putting out: lacking in many respects. It is definitely no better, but certainly no worse than most others. We put 7000 miles on it over 19 days starting the day after we bought it and everything worked/nothing failed on us. Definitely some warranty issues to be fixed come spring.

cbigham wrote:
Just went thru the thought process you did. Also worth looking at if you want slides is the sunseeker 25ts. Nice layout, neat motorhome.

I decided wanted no slides and bought a thor 23u for the length. The extra care is nice to rotate into from dinette on a rain day. The couch on the winnebago is nice too. I've seen all kinds of trouble with slides and heavy rain. Mechanical problems...I remember looking at coachmen 220 and seeing daylight out the slide mechanism fully extend3d! I was told it will be fixed if I buy. I said you guys drove from Indiana like that? No thanks.

Thank you. We have looked at and like the 23U too. If we go no-slide, the comparison would be between that and the 25B. 25B is nice because of the extra space of the sofa vs the extra chair. However, the benefit of the 23U is that it is shorter at 24'10".

Are there any other manufacturers with this layout? I haven't seen them in my research.

NWboondocker wrote:
We bought a '13 Freelander 26QB 3 yrs ago from a private owner, which previously spent its first year as a Road Bear rental. We got this floorplan for similar reasons - shortest possible unit with separate bedroom. Having separate couch & dinette was a bonus that we've really come to appreciate.

The main compromises are:
* Common complaints with corner bed access, though this one is somewhat better than front/rear orientation in the shorter units.

* Kitchen partially accessible with slide in - you can still reach some partial cabinets and sink.

Overall, after several years of significant vacation use including a 7K mi trip around the west, and some winter snow camping trips, we've been pleased.

See this post for my list of upgrades.

Thank you. Thanks for sharing the main compromises. It is helpful to learn that from the experience of others. I think those are both workable from our perspective. It's nice you can still reach the sink with the slide in.

melandme wrote:
We have had a 25B for the last two years and 28000 miles with no complaints. The reason we went with it was 1.the length for National parks and parking, 2. the couch, I hate sitting at the dinette, and 3. no slide, less weight and chance of mechanical failures. We did a week along trip with 5 adults, while tight it was doable. The corner bed can be a pain to make. The thing I like about the bed not being on a slide is when we overnight outside of a campground, we only have to put up a curtain to be ready for the night. We have traveled with the parents, the siblings, children and grandchildren and found this size to be a good fit.

Thank you. Good to know the 25B can work OK for longer trip with more people. We really like that fact it has an 80" long bed. Probably the biggest consideration between it and the Leprechaun 26QB is the extra room of the slide. And we are weighing the pros/cons of slide/no-slide.

Just went thru the thought process you did. Also worth looking at if you want slides is the sunseeker 25ts. Nice layout, neat motorhome.

I decided wanted no slides and bought a thor 23u for the length. The extra care is nice to rotate into from dinette on a rain day. The couch on the winnebago is nice too. I've seen all kinds of trouble with slides and heavy rain. Mechanical problems...I remember looking at coachmen 220 and seeing daylight out the slide mechanism fully extend3d! I was told it will be fixed if I buy. I said you guys drove from Indiana like that? No thanks.

We bought a '13 Freelander 26QB 3 yrs ago from a private owner, which previously spent its first year as a Road Bear rental. We got this floorplan for similar reasons - shortest possible unit with separate bedroom. Having separate couch & dinette was a bonus that we've really come to appreciate.

The main compromises are:
* Common complaints with corner bed access, though this one is somewhat better than front/rear orientation in the shorter units.

* Kitchen partially accessible with slide in - you can still reach some partial cabinets and sink.

Overall, after several years of significant vacation use including a 7K mi trip around the west, and some winter snow camping trips, we've been pleased.

See this post for my list of upgrades.

We have had a 25B for the last two years and 28000 miles with no complaints. The reason we went with it was 1.the length for National parks and parking, 2. the couch, I hate sitting at the dinette, and 3. no slide, less weight and chance of mechanical failures. We did a week along trip with 5 adults, while tight it was doable. The corner bed can be a pain to make. The thing I like about the bed not being on a slide is when we overnight outside of a campground, we only have to put up a curtain to be ready for the night. We have traveled with the parents, the siblings, children and grandchildren and found this size to be a good fit.

Yes they were made for the Rental Market,nothing wrong with a Former Rental :B

To be picked for that market they must stand up pretty well.

If you can get one with the curbside dinette that is a real plus.